1994 heater core troubleshooting

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Posting this here because I learned some lessons replacing my heater core that might be helpful to someone down the road.

My core began leaking, again. I had the original unit spring a leak on me once before, and when I found that there were no replacements available I had it repaired by a local radiator shop. Kind of a dying art.

It lasted about two years before leaking again from a different spot. I went back to the same radiator shop and had them actually produce me a new core.

This new core is dimensionally similar to the last one, although I noticed that it did not have the metal perimeter/casing. The layout of the individual channels for coolant is also somewhat different. Although I did not think much of this.

After getting it all reassembled, along with using brand new heater hoses, a new heater valve, and replacing the PHH, I was disappointed to find that the heat output was warm at best. Not toasty hot the way it used to be.

I am a somewhat capable diagnostician, so I won’t get into the details, but I ruled out the thermostat, the heater control valve, air in the system, heater core blockage, issues with the blend doors, servo/cable issues, and fan clutch operation.

With those ruled out to the best of my ability, I have determined that air is not being forced through the heater core in the way that it should be. It is somehow leaking around it.

Well reassembling, I found that all the foam on the blender doors was actually in pretty good shape, so I did not address this.
At the moment I believe that the lack of insulation around the new heater core, as it sits in the surrounding unit, is what is causing the poor heat output.

I will include a photo of the new remanufactured heater, core, and the old one that I removed.

I was really hoping to avoid buying one of the cheaper four seasons units, but I will probably go this route since it seems to be my only option.

An alternative is to find some way to create a casing for my new unit, but I’m undecided. I would hate to get it reassembled and have the same issue. The four seasons heater core looks like it at least has a nearly identical design to the OEM one.

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I’m in the process of replacing my heater core also after I found Toyota Red on the passenger side floor board. My first time doing it. I ordered a Four Seasons unit. It should be here in a few days. I also was gonna try and get my OG unit rebuilt or fixed by a radiator shop. Is there a way to DIY your own foam insulation around the replacement core you got so that it seals better?
 
I ordered the Four Seasons #92413. From the pics it looks pretty similar to the original. I’ll see soon.
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I ordered the Four Seasons #92413. From the pics it looks pretty similar to the original. I’ll see soon.
And I’m going to order some 1/8 closed cell foam. Probably this or similar:


What year is your land cruiser? I don’t remember exactly, but I seem to recall having issues with the placement of the hard lines/metal tubes and where they are supposed to go through the firewall.


I always like to plug the link of this video I made on taking apart the dash. However, it is specific to pre-95 Land Cruisers with the older interior.

 
And I’m going to order some 1/8 closed cell foam. Probably this or similar:


What year is your land cruiser? I don’t remember exactly, but I seem to recall having issues with the placement of the hard lines/metal tubes and where they are supposed to go through the firewall.


I always like to plug the link of this video I made on taking apart the dash. However, it is specific to pre-95 Land Cruisers with the older interior.


Oh cool, that’s a great video! I have a 93 and a 94 ( in my sig). I see what you mean, the inlet and outlet don’t line up? That could be annoying if that’s the case.
 
Oh cool, that’s a great video! I have a 93 and a 94 ( in my sig). I see what you mean, the inlet and outlet don’t line up? That could be annoying if that’s the case.
exactly. It all fits together perfectly and iirc I couldn’t get the hard lines of the four seasons heater core to line up with the firewall holes after it was placed into the larger hvac assembly.

Although, someone on Facebook recently told me they got it to work by bending the pipes, so maybe there’s something there.
 
Man, this is one of those jobs I am dreading but I need a heater core unfortunately, so out comes the soldering torch and flux I think
 
Did this unit work out correctly?

Thanks
-Rob
I just got it last night. Will be working on it this week and report back. Dash parts are cleaned and staged.
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Feeling confident with the Four Seasons. It feels cheaper but I think that’s because its aluminum and super light compared to the old copper one. I added some extra foam to the inside of the heater housing to minimize any movement or air gaps. Seems relatively tight in that location. The lines don’t line up exactly to the OEM unit but I was able to stuff it in its spot tonight and it seems to be all good.
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I bought that four seasons 92413 and the lines didn't line up for the body. Looks like yours is closer than mine was.

Instead, I had my original core cleaned, resoldered, and then pressure tested.
 
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