1983 FJ60 Igniter Check with Tachometer-SOLVED

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MickTLC

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My 83 60 has no spark. Coil is within spec. For Igniter, I’ve read to watch the tachometer when cranking and it should move. Mine moves slightly when key is turned to on position but when cranking, it lays dead.

Can someone confirm that the tachometer should move when cranking the engine?

Here is the cruiser.

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Just for giggles, I asked AI to interpret the above schematic:

The schematic depicts the **electronic ignition system** used in Toyota Land Cruiser **FJ60/FJ62 series** (USA models) from approximately **1980 through 1987**, powered by the 2F engine (4.2L inline-6). This is a **non-points, electronic system** using a magnetic pickup (signal generator) in the distributor, an external **igniter** (ignition control module), and a coil to drive the spark plugs via the distributor.

It shows two representations:
- A pictorial layout (top part) with components and wiring connections.
- A more symbolic electrical schematic (bottom part) detailing current flow and grounds.

### Key Components and Their Roles
- **Battery** — Primary 12V power source, negative terminal grounded to chassis/engine.
- **Fusible Link** — A protective high-amperage fuse (wire) in the main power feed to the ignition circuit. Prevents catastrophic shorts from reaching the rest of the system.
- **Ignition Switch** — Controls power to the system. Provides switched +12V (only when key is in ON/RUN position) through the fusible link to the coil/igniter.
- **Ignition Coil & Igniter** — Usually mounted together (coil on top of igniter or very close).
- The igniter is the electronic brain: it receives a trigger signal from the distributor and switches the coil's primary circuit on/off to create high-voltage sparks.
- Coil has + (positive) and - (negative) terminals.
- **Distributor** — Contains a magnetic **signal generator** (pickup coil / reluctor) that generates an AC voltage signal as the engine rotates (no mechanical points).
- Distributes high voltage from the coil to each spark plug in firing order via cap, rotor, and plug wires.
- **Spark Plugs** — Receive high-voltage pulses to ignite the air-fuel mixture.
- **Tachometer Connection** — Tapped from the coil negative (-) terminal (often through a resistor or directly), providing RPM signal to the dash tachometer (and sometimes emission controls or AC amplifier in USA models).

### Power and Signal Flow (Tracing the Circuit)
1. **Power supply path**:
- Battery positive → Fusible link → Ignition switch (IG terminal when ON).
- Switched +12V feeds the **+ terminal** of the ignition coil (and powers the igniter internally).

2. **Trigger / control path**:
- The distributor's signal generator (pickup coil) sends a pulsing signal (variable reluctance / magnetic pickup) to the **igniter** via a 2-wire connector (typically shielded or twisted pair).
- The igniter processes this signal and internally switches (opens/closes) the ground side of the coil's primary winding.

3. **Coil operation**:
- When the igniter grounds the coil's - terminal → primary circuit completes → current builds in the coil's primary winding.
- When the igniter opens the ground → magnetic field collapses → high voltage induced in secondary winding (20,000–40,000V).
- High voltage exits coil tower → goes to distributor center terminal → rotor → cap terminals → spark plug wires → spark plugs.

4. **Grounds**:
- Igniter grounded to chassis/engine.
- Coil negative not directly grounded (controlled by igniter).
- Battery negative grounded.

5. **Tachometer**:
- Connected to coil negative terminal (often with a series resistor in USA models to protect electronics and reduce interference/noise on the signal line to the tach, ECU/emissions computer, or AC amplifier).

### USA-Specific Notes (FJ series)
- USA models (especially later 1980s) used this electronic setup with an external igniter/coil combo.
- The schematic highlights the **fusable link** and connector to the ignition switch side (plug/coupler shown).
- Some variations exist between early (e.g., 1980) and later (1987) models, but this covers the general 1980–1987 electronic system (replacing earlier points-style ignition).
- The small inset box (FJ 60 series) with IG, AM, etc., likely represents the ignition switch terminal labeling (IG = ignition).

### Common Troubleshooting Points from This Diagram
- No spark? Check fusible link continuity, ignition switch output, power at coil +, ground at igniter, signal from distributor pickup, and coil/igniter function.
- Tach not working? Check connection at coil - (and any inline resistor).
- Intermittent issues often trace to corroded connectors, bad grounds, failing igniter, or aged pickup coil in distributor.

This is Toyota's reliable early electronic ignition design — simple, durable, but the igniter and pickup coil are common failure points after 35+ years. If you're diagnosing a specific problem (no spark, weak spark, tach issues, etc.), provide more details for targeted advice!
 
Have you found the signal generator available anywhere?
I was not able to find the signal generator or anything else (components or information) to repair the broken igniter. Glad I was able to get a used working one from eBay.
 
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