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  1. M

    2024 GX/Prado Release and Discussion

    Does anybody know what the GVWR is of the 300 series vs the 250?
  2. M

    2024 GX/Prado Release and Discussion

    It's definitely a different approach to a nameplate that is synonymous with durability.
  3. M

    2024 GX/Prado Release and Discussion

    Has Toyota ever really defined what light duty was in the Prado line up. I know if Full size trucks heavy duty generally refers to increased load capacity and tower. I think some of the grief, stem from the belief that the 200/300 series may have been designed for a longer service life and...
  4. M

    2024 GX/Prado Release and Discussion

    What was the issue for you? I'm a fan of ours.
  5. M

    2024 GX/Prado Release and Discussion

    Alot of this conjecture is really going to come down to price and availability. Toyota currently has production issues so its a real possibility that poverty LC might hit 65k with ADM and higher trims might approach the LX600 starting point... I'm not willing to entertain those price levels...
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    2024 GX/Prado Release and Discussion

    Yeah, the super safari is going to be missed. Before I get out of kuwait, I think I am going to grab a 97 Y61 to import as they will become eligible in the next year or so. Seems like you can track them down for around 1200KD or 3500 USD Spending alot of time in Kuwait, is part of the reason...
  7. M

    2024 GX/Prado Release and Discussion

    Moden Y60 with the GTR engine. Done.
  8. M

    2024 GX/Prado Release and Discussion

    Unless you are really blown away with a particular model, I don't think that it would be a bad thing to hold off a year. I would assume availability issues for the first year, and we have yet to see official pricing so once ADM is factored in, you may be in for pretty penny to be an early...
  9. M

    2024 GX/Prado Release and Discussion

    Honest question... What's the difference between Fords full time and Toyotas Full time 4WD systems?
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    2024 GX/Prado Release and Discussion

    Honestly, outside of the only engine option eating into the cargo capacity, the new LC seems ok. Considering that its going to need a set of tires, 55 feels a little high for the base. Its coming in around 12 grand higher than a Bronco, Big Bend, with 4 cylinder engine and a rear locker. The...
  11. M

    2024 GX/Prado Release and Discussion

    Its OK... Pros Rear and Center lock on base MPG's on paper. Looks good Question marks Storage area, better design than the Sequoia but still reduced over the GX Small tires and it doesn't look like you can go much large than a 33 Price on paper, Feels high, The engine and the cargo capacity...
  12. M

    2024 GX/Prado Release and Discussion

    That's exactly what I have been saying. It's a great truck.... at a certain price point.
  13. M

    2024 GX/Prado Release and Discussion

    I think that render is the best looking in the family, I prefer the windows all being in line and level, the rear step in the GX/LX give off ExTerra/Discovery vibes. Very sharp
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    2024 GX/Prado Release and Discussion

    You are not wrong that there are additional factors the increase the cost of a light diesel but if efficacy is something you want, you have to pay the piper, there is no free lunch. In the case of a mid grade, 1500 GMC truck, upgrading into a diesel is around 2k and can make 24mpg's. doing...
  15. M

    2024 GX/Prado Release and Discussion

    I'm not thinking its going to start in the mid 30's, I am saying that's where the 250 makes sense in every non US market on the planet. The 4Runner and Prado hold the same price point. What is the LC going to offer over a 4runner that warrants a 10k premium. its the same vehicle... No...
  16. M

    2024 GX/Prado Release and Discussion

    I really don't understand giving people the option to upgrade the Tacoma from a 4cylinder to a 6 cylinder for 500 bucks, and not do so in the LC. Thats not going to drive me to the GX, that's going to drive me into something elses. Lets say that a locked LC maxes at 55k. In order to get the...
  17. M

    2024 GX/Prado Release and Discussion

    Across the board, the modern trend of going to smaller, turbocharged engines has not really netted any appreciable increase in efficiency. You are looking at maybe 3mpg's on high end under lab conditions. If you live in a city, or a place with hills, or have large tires, there is no advantage...
  18. M

    2024 GX/Prado Release and Discussion

    LOL... You are not wrong... I am just saying that if they price the "US" Prado as its priced in all other markets, which is Mid 30's, I think it has a place in this market to compete against something like a Cherokee. which starts at 37. If they do this wierd thing where they charge the US a...
  19. M

    2024 GX/Prado Release and Discussion

    Watch it turn out to have the same cargo space as the supra.
  20. M

    2024 GX/Prado Release and Discussion

    We shall see, a really low buy in price can be interesting but I really hope they don't redo the sequioas cargo area.
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