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    New Badland Apex 12,000 lb. Winch

    This has been brought up before. Old news. If you try and stick to truly American made all the way, you would soon to see you could not. Probably the American car you drive has the parts sourced globally. The clothes, shoes, pharmaceuticals are from somewhere else. Even Japan is outsourcing to...
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    New Badland Apex 12,000 lb. Winch

    I am not trying to insult workers OR the intent to work and try. I have been around the block a lot and watched so many companies outsource and layoff people always in search of profit. Perhaps you can see at this time the trouble with shortages because of this quest for American profit. So, as...
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    New Badland Apex 12,000 lb. Winch

    I do not believe this and never will. I have been around long enough to know that the "too expensive" statement is subjective. Board of directors, stockholders, management make HUGE amounts as a ratio to workers. It IS the reason China is now perceived as doing business here is to costly. It is...
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    New Badland Apex 12,000 lb. Winch

    So, Raw steel comes in. From where ? China ? I would like to see what 400 workers do. Do you have a machine shop ? How about a model /R&D shop ? To me made in China with certain specs is also subjective. Do you have a lab to test material that is specified? Do you have a lab to stress test the...
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    New Badland Apex 12,000 lb. Winch

    At this point it seems like buying a Warn is similar to buying a US made Zenith TV. We all know what happened there. TV companies recruited offshore, Japan, and the last company died in 1984. Now, Warn is still hanging on but since the intellectual properties are now China's, we all can afford 2...
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    New Badland Apex 12,000 lb. Winch

    You are exactly right. Companies here play games with specs and act like they can control Chinese stuff. Reality is all drawings, specs, materials are hand fed to them and they enjoy the money from SAID company. Next, they take all the information and create the same rig , and do it cheaper as...
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    New Badland Apex 12,000 lb. Winch

    So are the Warn winches made in China as well. Or, are the parts made there and "assembled in USA". ? I would like the WARN people to chime in and respond to if, the WARN winches are sourced , and made in USA and NO components are made elsewhere ? Let see the response.
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