"Phil, I returned from Cruise Moab, having done Kokopelli with the swaybar disconnect system installed. Left the cotter pins in the brackets at the axle and didn't pin the sway bar up on the frame. Broke both pins, damaged the driver's side sway bar bracket (bent it to hell), and tripped off the...
Phil, I have all the records of our communication, and our PM thread. At no time did you show me the pictures of how best to cycle the suspension. And, well, I guess you got me- I did give your product one more try, and it didn't work out. Clearly, it was a mistake to give your product...
Uh, sorry but nice try.
The instructions sent did not include any of this. Ah, and do other people (eg people in the Jeep community) have issues with sway bar disconnects using cotter pins from Ace Hardware? Yes, yes they do. Clarification? Sure, obtained after the damage.
You guys can...
Ok, so how about you be clear for all of these supposed customers.
That if you fail to check the center of the rig, you risk losing your brakes and ABS.
And because you elected to feed the thread, let’s remind everyone you actually did NOT have instructions on cycling the suspension or...
Yes, familiar with that as well and very familiar with that particular Quattro. That said, some drivers have a lot of experience screwing around with their suspension, some don’t.
This was known. And you may recall I asked you about the strength of the cotter pin and lateral forces. As far as the cycling is concerned, the left / right sides were checked, but not the center. I’m not clear if that would have influenced the two pins coming out.
Washboard / rough roads. That picture was taken before the product was installed. I do tend to drive more quickly than average LC drivers, as I used to drive rally.
The pins were placed exactly as shown in Phil’s pictures. If you install this product, consider using something different for an extra layer of insurance.
Sorry Nate, but you guys decided to get nasty about this, and inappropriately, I might add. I’m sorry you do not understand the concern raised- it isn’t rocket science.
Next time, choose your words carefully before deciding to flame someone.
Regardless, my point was to help the uninitiated and be up front in the cautionary statements. For example, saying “cycle your suspension” means something to those who have experience with the suspension. But to others, they may not understand that phrase. The tab issue mentioned above is an...
Steve, sorry I was not clear- it looked like both pins had popped and the bar had swung down. There was rattling that I misspoke for my already rattling exhaust pipe. I would not call it a defect but rather caution to use a pin that can be secured better.
Ok Phil. Have it your way.
The thread has documented a concern about those very same pins, installed precisely as you photographed can find their way out if you’re on a washboard road.
I’ve documented the concern here. People are now aware of the concern and they can choose to do what they...
Not sure I agree with equating the risk with lift kits (where many have them installed in a shop) being the same as this simple to implement mod (where many will do it themselves).