Possible Rescue Mission?

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Spike is stuck near Pinetop and may need help this evening or in the morning. He's stuck in mud, going to give it another try at getting himself out then give me a call back.
 
I'm in

I'm going to be going to help him, but don't really want to head out alone. I'm at Spike's house right now and just talked to him on the phone. He has one side of his truck buried in the mud. I'm going to get some straps, a come-along and shovels. But by the time I'm ready, it's going to be dark. So probably won't head out till morning. Anybody willing to come and give us a hand, please post up, I'll send you my cell number and contact info.

You can also email me at michael.kaplan-at-focusitinc-dot-COM, those emails go straight to my phone.

Michael "Thanatoz" Kaplan
 
Rescue has been postponed till the morning. Anybody willing to give us a hand, please let us know, we will be heading out out early morning. From what he says he has one side BURIED to the body in mud. If you've seen Spike's 80, you know that is A LOT of mud. PICTURES WILL BE FORTH COMING!!! But will save the jeering for afterwards. :D
 
Would love to help Spike out, but I have to work this morning. Hope all goes well!
 
FORK! Wish I'd have seen this last night! Hope all goes well this morning.

Where's the pics already?
 
The white elephant is done wallowing in the mud and back in town. Big fun, snow, sleet, hail, rain, etc. Pix to follow, but now it's time for a nap!:D
 
Wake up! We want pics now!:D

Glad things went well..
 
When we got to Superior it was snowing and as we were leaving Globe we were passing plow trucks, thinking “This isn’t good!”:eek: It alternated between sunny, rain, sleet, hail, snow, repeat all of the way there. Luckily Spike picked a spot that was relatively sunny to get stuck.

A shot of the road on the way. The sign at the trail head, yep it’s on the res and some squatter we found along the trail
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Getting to work in the snow. You couldn’t stand anywhere close to the truck, or you would sink, so had to use rocks, logs to stand on. Same deal for the jack, toss a bunch of rock, then logs, then the plywood, as the jack went up the pile under it went down!
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Dug a bunch of mud out and a trench drain some of the water, then filled with rock, sticks and logs, basically made a road.:hillbilly:
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Success! There was a perfect clearing in the trees, slightly down hill for the tow rig, it came out without issue. Well other than Spike saying that I was more aggressive than needed in the tug, but my plan was “it’s coming out”!:hillbilly:

At the trail head we saw a bunch of wild turkey, my guess ~20, pretty cool, don’t see them often.

It was a lot of work, but a bunch more fun than a day at the shop!:D
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(note to self: Add winch to long list of expensive crap to buy this month)
 
Thats why IH8MUD.
I avoid that crap whenever possible. You can never get it all out from under the rig. I still have bits of dirt fall out of places underneath. And it always falls in your face when your laying under there with a wrench.

Nice gobblers!
 
Great pics, you guys don't even look like you got too muddy.

Have you thought about billing the Apache's for the road improvement? :D
 
Great pics, you guys don't even look like you got too muddy.

Have you thought about billing the Apache's for the road improvement? :D

LMAO, that is a brilliant idea. I don't know how he found that mud hole, but it was really the only true mud we found out there. Trust Spike to find it. I've got some pictures, but ToolsRUs pretty well covered it. I woke up way late for work this morning, so didn't have time to pull my pics off my camera.
 
It's damned good to be a member of this club. Another proud moment.
 
Oh, fun times. Now I know how to get Thanatoz and Tools offroad, neither of whom had been out with me in many months. I'm gonna try to find another less stressful way to accomplish this.

My story: I went up to Pine Top for a week to help a friend do some remodelling on his A-frame. Never one for pavement, I found a route (on Google Maps, incidentally- and no mention of Indian land or permits) to get from Highway 87 via Punkin Center and across to U.S. 60, and then on to Pinetop. I figured it wouldn't be more than forest roads, certainly no hard-core wheeling. The plan was to take this route from Phoenix to Pine Top, then after the week was over to run back on the evil blacktop. The plan had a hiccup almost immediately; the road from 87 over to Punkin Center was impassible by me due to an off-camber washout above a deep fissure. I went back to 87 and ran the 'normal' route on to Punkin Center and then rejoined my route from there. I had gotten a late start, so when I hit the Young Highway (dirt road) after a few hours of fun backroads and exploration, I chose to call it a day and took it up to the 260 and across to my final destination.
I spent the week doing woodwork; laying wood floor, ceiling, building and hanging a rough-cut exterior door, and other stuff. I decided to return to Phoenix via my route, and at least get to do the half I missed on the way up. I found my way to Cibeque and thought it odd that the town was populated entirely by Indians, but didn't give it a lot of thought. Just north of the town the pavement ended, I made a small water crossing, and continued on through the trees. The scenery was fantastic- deep pine woods with some snow in patches hanging around. The trail was maybe a 2 on a 5 scale, 2WD capable with tire ruts in the dried mud. Very little wet mud- in fact I don't remember any up until my fun ended. I went a few miles in, and saw a small hill with some serious ruts and a spot where someone had filled in a washout with branches and logs. The ground looked wet, but not treacherous. I hit the hill unlocked, not expecting a thing. Then the right side of the truck dropped. Hmm. It came to a stop and I didn't try to gun it, figuring to lock up the axles and continue on my merry way. With the magic switch engaged, I eased into the throttle and the truck slid sideways, shifting off-camber alarmingly. I got a bit worried now, but figured I'd back out and re-adjust my angle. Reverse got me more sideways movement and more off-camber excitement. All four tires spun, but I couldn't get any motion in any direction. I got out and looked it over; 35 inch tires on the passenger side completely under the mud, the right side of the truck leaning on the hill, dirver's side tires still sitting on top of the road. Now I'm a bit scared.

I walked up the hill to see if I could get cell service. I had signal and after many tries got my wife's voice mail- not what I wanted, but at least I could tell her what was going on. Then I called Thanatoz and Tools-R-Us and explained my predicament, where I was, how to find me, what I thought I needed to get out, etc. I told them I would try to extricate myself, but if they didn't hear from me they might want to get a crew together if possible to rescue my dumb ass. After some time looking at the truck, the mud (thick, gooey paste is my best description- and seemingly bottomless) I came to the depressing conclusion that I hadn't a snowball's chance in hell of getting out by myself- the truck was so deep that I couldn't get a shovel near where it needed to be, and speaking of snow, it was in the forecast and in the air on occasion. The Hi-Lift I happened to load wouldn't fit under anywhere helpful, and I hadn't convinced the wife I needed a winch just yet. Which, by the way, I could have easily used right when I first lost forward momentum, before I wedged myself up against the hill. So, back on the phone (which required many, many tries to complete a connection, but once established seemed to hold it) where the guys said they'd be happy to come up and lend a hand. Unfortunately, though, not until the next day. Ugh. Oh well, I had all my cold weather gear, food and water, and other necessities with me. The night was uncomfortable, but knowing rescue was on the way made it much more bearable. I'd have been truly freaking if the cell hadn't worked- it was a long hike to a phone.

The next morning the Indian forestry service/police showed up and gave me a ticket for not having a permit. My arguement that there were no signs posted requireing a permit or telling me that the area was closed fell on deaf ears. Fifty bucks (cash) paid that ticket, and then he called his supervisor and got permission to try to pull me out with his winch on an F250. I called the rescue team and put them on hold, they were at Gold Canyon heading my way, and they said they'd wait and see whether I got out. They winched me forward 'till the passenger tire found a solid part of the bank to get stuck behind (I call it a bank now because it was basically a river of mud down one side of the road, against a hill), then backward 'till the plows formerly known as my axles provided enough resistance to stop progression. He gave me permission to get help in, some directions as to where the help could get their permits, a handy brochure, my copies of my ticket and receipt of payment, and told me he'd check back in later that evening to see if I was still there. I called Thanatoz and after about 10 minutes finally got a connection to his voicemail, freaked completely out, called Tools and got through, gave him the news, and then went to work. The attempted extraction had accomplished one thing, I saw as I returned to the truck- it was no longer off-camber. All 4 tires were now close to completely buried, but the bumpers were a few inches out of the muck and I saw that a shovel and jack would be useful. I spent the next few hours shovelling mud away from the rear axle and moving it away from the truck, cutting the 'bank' back away from the passenger side so the truck could move backwards, and got the Hi-Lift on my spare tire and a 3'x3' piece of plywood and jacked the truck up to the top of the jack. That got the rear tires out of the mud. I had lunch, gathered wood and rocks, and around 1:30 PM started hearing chatter on the CB. Half an hour later the guys showed up, we built the fine road under the rear, jacked up the front and did the same, and then Kevin dragged me and mine back to terra firma. We got moving sometime after 5 PM towards town, hit Globe with fumes in Kevin and Michael's tanks, and hit a restaurant for pizza around 8:30.

I now have a winch-on-a-stick, as I like to call it, a winch that plugs into a receiver hitch, one of which I have on either end of my truck. Michael purchased it off Craig's List and brought it with him to the party. If the Indian guys hadn't pulled me in a better position, I suspect we would have had to use it as well as both of their fully-locked Cruisers to yank my silly butt out, but I'm glad we didn't have to find out. Thank goodness I had fully detailed my route on my home computer on topo software, and had the same software along for the ride so I could tell the rescue crew exactly where I was, and that Michael has the same software and a laptop to use to track me down. I didn't go looking for trouble; had I seen the mud I would have avoided it, and if there'd been a sign like the one below on my route I'd have turned around, but I did go looking for trouble by going out alone without enough equipment to rescue myself.

In my defense, this sign is on the road Tools and Thanatoz took to get to me, and there were no signs like it on my route.

Thanks, guys.

-Spike (spending the day cleaning the truck, and building up my yard. Oh, and testing my new winch. :D)
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Good times, nice save fellas.

In your defense, I wouldn't have given that spot a 2nd though and probably cruised right into it too:lol:
 
It's damned good to be a member of this club. Another proud moment.

X2, because we have Spike to entertain us!:D:lol:

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In my defense, this sign is on the road Tools and Thanatoz took to get to me, and there were no signs like it on my route.

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:whoops: I should have made that more clear, it was on the short cut trail we used to get to him, not on the trail that he had been on. And they gave us permission to use that trail to get to Spike.
 
Glad to hear you are back and safe...good to know the group is there in a pinch...sorry I couldn't make it.
 

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