What have you done to your 200 Series this week?

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scottryana said:
The only experience I have is with the BBS forged that do have the pockets but I do remember someone on here having a problem with the thinner wheel spacer and getting the wheel to sit flat and if I remember correctly ended with their wheel coming off.
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I run the 1.25" with my BBS heritage wheels with no issues. I think many others have done the same.
 
tampacruiser95 said:
Anyone recommend a good set of 1" wheel spacers? Everything I see is 1.25+. Anyone running a set of 1"?
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I have a set of 1" Bora spacers that I didn't use... bought and had available in case I needed them but the offset of the wheel combo I got was great so I didn't use them. LMK, would be happy to sell them to ya at a slight discount and zero wait... can send an email of the original invoice... DMs open

****UPDATE**** Spacers sold
 
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bloc said:
I’m starting to buy in to the theory that the head gaskets themselves were faulty for at least some part of a production run. There seems to be a band of 2013s that lose a HG. And while some of them couldn’t rule out an overheat scenario somewhere in their lifespan, or no confirmed drain & fill maintenance history, mine and a couple others I seem to remember point to no real “event” or neglect.

~233k miles. 105 in Tennessee then I brought it to Texas. I rarely tow. Much of the mileage is from lightly loaded trips back and forth to Colorado.. probably 50k of it.

It’s coming apart fine, though I anticipate a delay to find a solid way to handle the crank bolt. None of the hold back tools I’ve seen list support for the 5.7. Maybe a question for @cruiseroutfit .. any tool recs maybe?

On the bright side, I had motor mounts, starter, thermostat, and a few other parts sitting on the shelf waiting to go in as PM. And had been trying to figure out when to address the front timing cover oil leak and slightly noisy driver’s side chain tensioner.

Now I’ll have a lot of room to do that stuff.

Maybe a PS pump. Steering rack not a horrible idea?

This certainly sucks but I’m fortunate to not have to pay someone to get it fixed. Good excuse for a few new tools.




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I always thought the first step was disconnecting the battery?
 
bloc said:
I’m starting to buy in to the theory that the head gaskets themselves were faulty for at least some part of a production run. There seems to be a band of 2013s that lose a HG. And while some of them couldn’t rule out an overheat scenario somewhere in their lifespan, or no confirmed drain & fill maintenance history, mine and a couple others I seem to remember point to no real “event” or neglect.

~233k miles. 105 in Tennessee then I brought it to Texas. I rarely tow. Much of the mileage is from lightly loaded trips back and forth to Colorado.. probably 50k of it.

It’s coming apart fine, though I anticipate a delay to find a solid way to handle the crank bolt. None of the hold back tools I’ve seen list support for the 5.7. Maybe a question for @cruiseroutfit .. any tool recs maybe?

On the bright side, I had motor mounts, starter, thermostat, and a few other parts sitting on the shelf waiting to go in as PM. And had been trying to figure out when to address the front timing cover oil leak and slightly noisy driver’s side chain tensioner.

Now I’ll have a lot of room to do that stuff.

Maybe a PS pump. Steering rack not a horrible idea?

This certainly sucks but I’m fortunate to not have to pay someone to get it fixed. Good excuse for a few new tools.




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I saw a TCCN video about this the other day, also showing the failure on a 2013 LC, but he mentioned seeing the problem on several GR- and UR-series motors. His theory was the super-long life coolant getting acidic if not changed before the initial 100k interval and eating the coatings on the head gaskets, but imho the 'bad part run' theory makes more sense to me. GR engines debuted in 2002, SLLC around the same time... I feel like we'd have started seeing much wider-spread failures in much older cars if this were an engineering problem, a la Subaru's problems with the EJ motors.
 
FULL T1ME said:
I run the 1.25" with my BBS heritage wheels with no issues. I think many others have done the same.
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Correct if you read what I wrote it says the BBS wheels do have the pockets necessary in addition the 1.25" spacers cover the stock studs. He was asking about using 1" spacers.
 
bloc said:
I’m starting to buy in to the theory that the head gaskets themselves were faulty for at least some part of a production run. There seems to be a band of 2013s that lose a HG. And while some of them couldn’t rule out an overheat scenario somewhere in their lifespan, or no confirmed drain & fill maintenance history, mine and a couple others I seem to remember point to no real “event” or neglect.

~233k miles. 105 in Tennessee then I brought it to Texas. I rarely tow. Much of the mileage is from lightly loaded trips back and forth to Colorado.. probably 50k of it.

It’s coming apart fine, though I anticipate a delay to find a solid way to handle the crank bolt. None of the hold back tools I’ve seen list support for the 5.7. Maybe a question for @cruiseroutfit .. any tool recs maybe?

On the bright side, I had motor mounts, starter, thermostat, and a few other parts sitting on the shelf waiting to go in as PM. And had been trying to figure out when to address the front timing cover oil leak and slightly noisy driver’s side chain tensioner.

Now I’ll have a lot of room to do that stuff.

Maybe a PS pump. Steering rack not a horrible idea?

This certainly sucks but I’m fortunate to not have to pay someone to get it fixed. Good excuse for a few new tools.




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Secondary air bypass? That ticking time bomb of a code waiting to happen
 
tampacruiser95 said:
OEM wheels won't work with spacers?
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That is not correct, OEM wheels will work with spacers...here are the 1" Bora spacers and there is no rub and drives with no modifications or changes.
And looks better than stock!

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Jestocost said:
I saw a TCCN video about this the other day, also showing the failure on a 2013 LC, but he mentioned seeing the problem on several GR- and UR-series motors. His theory was the super-long life coolant getting acidic if not changed before the initial 100k interval and eating the coatings on the head gaskets, but imho the 'bad part run' theory makes more sense to me. GR engines debuted in 2002, SLLC around the same time... I feel like we'd have started seeing much wider-spread failures in much older cars if this were an engineering problem, a la Subaru's problems with the EJ motors.
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We’ve discussed that video in a dedicated thread. I don’t think it’s completely off base but the theory about going acidic doesn’t seem to hold up. A fair number of users here tested their coolant pH and acidity wasn’t an issue.

That doesn’t mean something else chemical in nature isn’t happening to the head gaskets.. personally I do feel more frequent coolant changes are justified based on what we are seeing.

nwfl4runner said:
Secondary air bypass? That ticking time bomb of a code waiting to happen
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Nope. Those bypasses are more problematic than the original parts on the 200-series, based on a fair number of years watching this forum.

Plus if I have to do it later the intake manifold is pretty easy to get off by now.. this is my third or fourth time.
 
Put a hidden winch on my 14 lx570.

I am really disappointed in the quality of trail tailor. The bottom brackets for the bumper holes don't line up. The winch is way too far forward and hits the grill. There wasn't a template for cutting the bumper for the fairlead. I feel like for $600, I got hosed. There's no actual reviews online for this and it's pretty aggravating. It bolted up fine, but again for $600, it should be perfect.

My son has a 2016 Colorado and their hidden winch mounts are much more labor intensive to build and they bolt up very easily. Same price.

My old 09 Silverado 1500 had a hidden winch mount from rough country that was $200. Bolted up nicely.

I fabbed my hidden winch mount up on my current 2013 Silverado 2500hd for about $100 in steel.

I fabbed up a winch mount for my buddies Mercedes ML320 and it was $50.

If you're thinking about buying the trail tailor hidden winch mount and you can weld and fabricate at a low to medium competence, you should just make your own.

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Texasz71 said:
Put a hidden winch on my 14 lx570.

I am really disappointed in the quality of trail tailor. The bottom brackets for the bumper holes don't line up. The winch is way too far forward and hits the grill. There wasn't a template for cutting the bumper for the fairlead. I feel like for $600, I got hosed. There's no actual reviews online for this and it's pretty aggravating. It bolted up fine, but again for $600, it should be perfect.

My son has a 2016 Colorado and their hidden winch mounts are much more labor intensive to build and they bolt up very easily. Same price.

My old 09 Silverado 1500 had a hidden winch mount from rough country that was $200. Bolted up nicely.

I fabbed my hidden winch mount up on my current 2013 Silverado 2500hd for about $100 in steel.

I fabbed up a winch mount for my buddies Mercedes ML320 and it was $50.

If you're thinking about buying the trail tailor hidden winch mount and you can weld and fabricate at a low to medium competence, you should just make your own.

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I thought the TT was reasonably priced till I saw the SDHQ mount is $1k.
 
dudemancool1904 said:
I thought the TT was reasonably priced till I saw the SDHQ mount is $1k.
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The SDHQ is in my opinion a more substantial kit and worth the few extra bucks.
 
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Texasz71 said:
Put a hidden winch on my 14 lx570.

I am really disappointed in the quality of trail tailor. The bottom brackets for the bumper holes don't line up. The winch is way too far forward and hits the grill. There wasn't a template for cutting the bumper for the fairlead. I feel like for $600, I got hosed. There's no actual reviews online for this and it's pretty aggravating. It bolted up fine, but again for $600, it should be perfect.

My son has a 2016 Colorado and their hidden winch mounts are much more labor intensive to build and they bolt up very easily. Same price.

My old 09 Silverado 1500 had a hidden winch mount from rough country that was $200. Bolted up nicely.

I fabbed my hidden winch mount up on my current 2013 Silverado 2500hd for about $100 in steel.

I fabbed up a winch mount for my buddies Mercedes ML320 and it was $50.

If you're thinking about buying the trail tailor hidden winch mount and you can weld and fabricate at a low to medium competence, you should just make your own.

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That sounds frustrating.

Counterpoint… I had a TT HWM before I switched to a full bumper and found it well made and relatively easy to install. There are times I wish I’d just kept it. My only beef is that he won’t ship to Kansas, but I think that’s related to an inability or unwillingness to collect state sales tax.
 
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