Wondering if any of you use a tire sealant (before a flat) to prevent flats in the woods? If so, the brand? Thanks.
Tire Sealant?
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The majority of the sealantsonly work when the tire is rolling using the rotational force to distribute the sealant. We have used it in Loader and skidder aplications with limited success. On a high speed aplication it can cause an imbalance issue. Dean
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Yep, I really don't really care that much I guess.
You must be using different sealants that I have. The tire needs to rotate for initial sealing of a hole, but once it's done, the tirre stays sealed. I have used them for years inb a wide variety of automotive and light truck tires. Never had a balance problem.
As for the original question, I've never used it as a pre-emptive approach. I don't know what sort of wheeling you do, but these products are most effective at small diameter punctures like caused by nails and such. I've never encountered that sort of tire damage while on the trail. These cases are usually
slashes or tears or other longer types of damage.
I prefer to just carry a plug kit (I actually normally carry an entire tire repair kit to include patches, tubes and materials for stitching sidewall tears back together). I only use the tire sealents for slow pinhole or bead leaks that I can not easily locate and repair.
Mark...
As for the original question, I've never used it as a pre-emptive approach. I don't know what sort of wheeling you do, but these products are most effective at small diameter punctures like caused by nails and such. I've never encountered that sort of tire damage while on the trail. These cases are usually
slashes or tears or other longer types of damage.
I prefer to just carry a plug kit (I actually normally carry an entire tire repair kit to include patches, tubes and materials for stitching sidewall tears back together). I only use the tire sealents for slow pinhole or bead leaks that I can not easily locate and repair.
Mark...
Hi, I am new to the forum but I do know about Tire Sealants. You have sealants for if you travel on the road traveling normal speeds up to 70-80mph, and then there are HD sealants for Big trucks and buses and then there is extreme HD sealant for tires and vehicles traveling under 25 miles per hour.
A real good sealant will seal your tire from the inside, also sealing rim leaks and will seal all punctures immediately. It will allow you to maintain the proper air pressure in your tire, conditions the tire, is a rust inhibitor, water washable and most important will last the life of the tire never globing up and drying out..
You can run over 50 nails and not lose a pound of air with a good sealant. I will have a banner up shortly and will have a direct link to show you all this awesome product.
There's only one that is the real deal and it has been around since 1969. I would not go off roading with out this in my tires. The bottom line is sealants are great but they have to be the right ones or your just wasting money , time and creating a mess inside your tires.
A real good sealant will seal your tire from the inside, also sealing rim leaks and will seal all punctures immediately. It will allow you to maintain the proper air pressure in your tire, conditions the tire, is a rust inhibitor, water washable and most important will last the life of the tire never globing up and drying out..
You can run over 50 nails and not lose a pound of air with a good sealant. I will have a banner up shortly and will have a direct link to show you all this awesome product.
There's only one that is the real deal and it has been around since 1969. I would not go off roading with out this in my tires. The bottom line is sealants are great but they have to be the right ones or your just wasting money , time and creating a mess inside your tires.
not only is it messy, but a lot of sealants don't react well with aluminum rims, so be careful if that's what you run. i ran slime in the innertubes on my dirtbike with no issues, but never had a thought to run them on my cruisers. i have plug kits and spare tires.
Slime is one of the copy cats of the original.. They will work for awhile but none of them have the amount of propitiatory ingrediants that the original formula has. It will always remain liquid which is one of the secrets.
I sell Armored cars and this sealant was one of the less expensive alternatives to the expensive run flat tire that have a tire within a tire. It was originally designed for the off road market and progressed from there. It has been used by the Military since the late 60's.
The more you wrap your head around this product, every tire needs this. We are all running around on under inflated tires. Air pumps are like trying to find a gold nugget and when you do you have to pay .75 cents for some bogus little puffer air pump w/ no pressure.
Do you know it takes 17 gallons of oil to make a car tire. It takes 22 gallons for a truck tire. Good sealant will make your tires last 25% longer due to proper air pressure. Imagine how many less tires just in the states we would buy. It would be nice to get another 7 mos. to a year out of a set of tires.
I sell Armored cars and this sealant was one of the less expensive alternatives to the expensive run flat tire that have a tire within a tire. It was originally designed for the off road market and progressed from there. It has been used by the Military since the late 60's.
The more you wrap your head around this product, every tire needs this. We are all running around on under inflated tires. Air pumps are like trying to find a gold nugget and when you do you have to pay .75 cents for some bogus little puffer air pump w/ no pressure.
Do you know it takes 17 gallons of oil to make a car tire. It takes 22 gallons for a truck tire. Good sealant will make your tires last 25% longer due to proper air pressure. Imagine how many less tires just in the states we would buy. It would be nice to get another 7 mos. to a year out of a set of tires.
bouncer, you keep mentioning an original tire sealant, but you don't name it? why not? are you a spamtard selling a product?
as for all of us running around with underinflated tires, you may need to look at yourself, but i check my tires on a regular basis and they don't leak air. i
am almost never running on underinflated tires. do i think many average people are, yes. but i know a heck of a lot of cruiserheads that actually pay attention to their vehicles, including tire pressure.
as for all of us running around with underinflated tires, you may need to look at yourself, but i check my tires on a regular basis and they don't leak air. i
am almost never running on underinflated tires. do i think many average people are, yes. but i know a heck of a lot of cruiserheads that actually pay attention to their vehicles, including tire pressure.
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... for all of us running around with underinflated tires, you may need to look at yourself, but i check my tires on a regular basis and they don't leak air. i
am almost never running on underinflated tires. do i think many average people are, yes. but i know a heck of a lot of cruiserheads that actually pay attention to their vehicles, including tire pressure.
Yep, mine are aired down, so reinflated to the proper pressure often.
On the goo, I find it useful in bike, wheelbarrow, etc, type tires that are prone to small leaks, from thorns, etc. Off road tires are much stronger than they were years ago, so most failures are of the type (large holes) that goo isn't going to do any good. Once you have this type of failure, the goo coming out the cut, doesn't make the job of inserting a hand full of plugs any easier?
The goo is a pretty good sealant. Does a great job of gumming, clogging up valve cores or flying out the valve stem if you remove them, when airing down.
The sealant is called Ultraseal. It has been around since 1969.The high performance version will seal up to 1/4 inch punctures. The Extra HD sealant will seal up to 1/2 inch punctures.
The original Ultraseal formula was specifically designed to seal tire punctures for the rapidly growing 4x4, dune buggy and off-road recreational vehicle market.
Tires are porous so they seem to always lose air over time. Ultraseal helps because it seals the inside of the tire helping to maintain what ever pressure you have in the tire, seal rim leaks and take care of sealing punctures depending on the product your using. It's a great product.
It's not designed to seal a tear caused by a boulder or rock 3" to 6" in diameter. I did start a post with Never get a flat again. I should have added Within Reason. A bullet resistant vest will fend off certain bullets but not 50 cal. armor piercing rounds.
For more info go to BulletProof hop.com
The original Ultraseal formula was specifically designed to seal tire punctures for the rapidly growing 4x4, dune buggy and off-road recreational vehicle market.
Tires are porous so they seem to always lose air over time. Ultraseal helps because it seals the inside of the tire helping to maintain what ever pressure you have in the tire, seal rim leaks and take care of sealing punctures depending on the product your using. It's a great product.
It's not designed to seal a tear caused by a boulder or rock 3" to 6" in diameter. I did start a post with Never get a flat again. I should have added Within Reason. A bullet resistant vest will fend off certain bullets but not 50 cal. armor piercing rounds.
For more info go to BulletProof hop.com
what does it do when you air down? does it spray out the valve stem? or is there a special filtered core that's required? does it stick to the tire and not spray?
The comment about air pressure... You are a very small minority that have the correct air pressure. If you take a 100 people off the street. I would bet that 85-90 of them will have mis matched and low air pressure in their tires.
Most people do not have compressors at their house. They can barely find an air pump at a gas station or a quick stop. If they do, the gauges suck and then you have to have .75 cents to 1.50 in change in your pocket to get that little puffer air pump going. Darn,
All I have is my debit card ( Oh well , I'll get air next time). This happens a lot. I do try to keep my pressure dialed in on my car but it is still a hassle finding a good air pump.
These are images so you can see how much rubber is actually in Ultraseal versus the competition.This is the reason it works so well.
http://ultraseal.com/images/Images_Testing/USCompetitorComparison.jpg
I check for you to see what happens when you pressure down.
My intent here is not to denigrate our competitors, but rather to inform the reader of the risks of purchasing an inferior, low-cost product. The inside of a rotating tire is a very hostile environment. It takes a sophisticated, well-engineered product to survive the extreme centrifugal forces without suffering chemical and solid separation; literally coming apart at the seams.
Most people do not have compressors at their house. They can barely find an air pump at a gas station or a quick stop. If they do, the gauges suck and then you have to have .75 cents to 1.50 in change in your pocket to get that little puffer air pump going. Darn,
All I have is my debit card ( Oh well , I'll get air next time). This happens a lot. I do try to keep my pressure dialed in on my car but it is still a hassle finding a good air pump.These are images so you can see how much rubber is actually in Ultraseal versus the competition.This is the reason it works so well.
http://ultraseal.com/images/Images_Testing/USCompetitorComparison.jpg
I check for you to see what happens when you pressure down.
My intent here is not to denigrate our competitors, but rather to inform the reader of the risks of purchasing an inferior, low-cost product. The inside of a rotating tire is a very hostile environment. It takes a sophisticated, well-engineered product to survive the extreme centrifugal forces without suffering chemical and solid separation; literally coming apart at the seams.
I carry a spare...
I've never had an issue with a small puncture like the ones for which the sealant would help. Of all the tire punctures I've had, I think all or almost all have involved ripping a large gash in the sidewall. If I were to carry anything, it would be a large patch (something like 6x6 inch size) some type of heavy thread and needle to set up the cut first and an inner-tube of the appropriate size. I think that would be the only "fix" that would make a torn sidewall useable to get off the trail.
I do use "Stan's" religiously in my mountain bike tires. Around here we have a lot of thorns that will puncture a MTB tire easily. I used to get multiple flats in a single trip to places like Antelope Island. With Stans, it's been 100% effective so far. IMO it's a better option than Slime because Stans is much lighter weight and thinner, but still seals the small holes really effectively. Slime is just too heavy for MTB use IMO.
I've never had an issue with a small puncture like the ones for which the sealant would help. Of all the tire punctures I've had, I think all or almost all have involved ripping a large gash in the sidewall. If I were to carry anything, it would be a large patch (something like 6x6 inch size) some type of heavy thread and needle to set up the cut first and an inner-tube of the appropriate size. I think that would be the only "fix" that would make a torn sidewall useable to get off the trail.
I do use "Stan's" religiously in my mountain bike tires. Around here we have a lot of thorns that will puncture a MTB tire easily. I used to get multiple flats in a single trip to places like Antelope Island. With Stans, it's been 100% effective so far. IMO it's a better option than Slime because Stans is much lighter weight and thinner, but still seals the small holes really effectively. Slime is just too heavy for MTB use IMO.
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... Most people do not have compressors at their house. They can barely find an air pump at a gas station or a quick stop. If they do, the gauges suck and then you have to have .75 cents to 1.50 in change in your pocket to get that little puffer air pump going. Darn,
You are likely marketing to the wrong segment? I have a compressor mounted in the rig, can air tires anytime, 24/7. Looks something like this.
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I would venture to guess that every person who's replied in this thread has at least a 12v compressor if not a belt driven compressor in their vehicle and one at the house. FWIW, I usually have both my york 12cfm belt drive, and a back-up MV50. Heck even my bicycle has a compressor on it.
What compressor is that in your pics? Edit: Googled it. Haven't heard of Puma 12v compressors before. Looks like a pretty nice package.
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Air Compressors in Rigs
Well I have to say , some of you are very well prepared. I have been in the car business for over 20 years and have NEVER seen a compressor mounted in a vehicle like you have. I work used cars for 15 years. You are a very select few as I have said.
I'm glad you are so well prepared.The other 99% of people out there are not. Using High Performance Ultraseal for your family vehicles is still a good thing that will protect your spouse and kids from flat tires if they pinch a curb, or run over a nail or some sort of debris in the road. Your tires run cooler also.
If they do have a side wall blow out, it will help seal the tear and at least give them a more controlled stop as it will help to slow down the air loss. It has it's applications for sure.
Well I have to say , some of you are very well prepared. I have been in the car business for over 20 years and have NEVER seen a compressor mounted in a vehicle like you have. I work used cars for 15 years. You are a very select few as I have said.
I'm glad you are so well prepared.The other 99% of people out there are not. Using High Performance Ultraseal for your family vehicles is still a good thing that will protect your spouse and kids from flat tires if they pinch a curb, or run over a nail or some sort of debris in the road. Your tires run cooler also.
If they do have a side wall blow out, it will help seal the tear and at least give them a more controlled stop as it will help to slow down the air loss. It has it's applications for sure.
how does it keep them from running cooler?
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I think what Tools was saying is you are marketing to the wrong demographic. Virtually EVERYBODY on this board will have some way of airing up tires, probably 1% won't rather than the 99% you mention.
We never worry about my wife getting a flat, we have AAA
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Yep. Most who wheel are very aware of tire pressure. Quickly recognize a low tire, because they often drive on them, so know what it feels like.
We never worry about my wife getting a flat, we have AAA
My wife's car has my spare MV50 in the in the trunk and she knows how to use it.