Thoughts after a newbie's first offraod trip

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Took a trip over to the Manastash area via Naches Pass trail over Labor Day weekend. After finishing up the Naches trail Saturday night we headed into Yakima because we weren't positive we'd be able to find the Manastash area to setup camp. The next day we found our way to the Manastash area and ran portions of the Divide, Tripod Flats, Lost Lake, Shoestring, Manastash Ridge and Lilly Pond trails. Once finished in the Manastash area we headed back for a night run on the Naches Pass trail to head home to Seattle. These trails were challenging and my eighty looked out of place amongst all the narrow shorter wheelbase rigs with giant tires. Even so we seemed to not be struggling any more than others.

Heading up the lower section of the Naches Pass trail:
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Trying to remove the roofrack crossbar interfering with the tree on the Lost Lake Trail:
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Stuck in the mud obstructed by roots and a tree:
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This last photo was the one situation where we had to break out the winch to pull the truck away from a tree as it climbed over the root. Unfortunately that situation lasted longer than it needed to due to some people "helping" us but we probably could have done better with out their help and comments. Once out we took a rest and watched another group navigate through that spot. They made it through without a winch but with some measure of difficulty and body damage. We ran with this next group for a bit and they were fun to hang out with. They were intrigued by my attire (shorts and flip flops) and amazed that we were out there in my preferred daily driver with very little damage incurred.

Here are some of the things I learned:

  • The stock running boards are good to have and better than not having anything but should be replaced by a step slider
  • It is very difficult to prevent damage to the rear fender flares. Mine were still attached at the end of the trip but are in need of some patch work. I think I will paint them black in the future to make repairs easier.
  • There is an app for Android phones called "Glue Trail" which displays your location on any map you can provide it in JPEG format. This is extremely helpful when navigating in unfamiliar areas and/or the dark
  • Currently I have 1" coil spacers and stock springs with 285s. Loaded up the rear sags a bit, I think I will use air bags to help with this. I'm trying to avoid lift springs because it seemed that more height might make the trails more difficult and I really enjoy the ride of the stock springs.
 
How tight were the trails with your rig? I've been avoiding some of those trails because I was unsure I could make it through without ripping my flares. Who was the group you ran with for awhile? A few buddies went there last Saturday; I believe they were in an FJ Cruiser, mini truck and Explorer I think.
Thanks for sharing the pics.

Salue
 
It may be too late to help, but trimming the rear mudflaps just below where it says "Land Cruiser" will help prevent catching them so easily and pulling at the flares when in reverse.

Of course, this doesn't help a bit with the flares if it's sideways clearance against an obstacle that's the problem.

Coil springs tend to sag more than leaf springs with age. As far as sagging in the rear, consider OME stock height springs. The limits of our garage prevented consideration of a lift and the truck didn't need it with 33s, the largest tire I plan on running anyway. But the OME 862 stock height springs will take the sag out and add just a little height, especially if you tend to wheel with a load in back.
 
There were many instances where there was only 2-4" to spare sometimes even less. Nothing that we came came across was impassable. The group we ran with appeared to be the Maverick/Carbon Glacier Jeep club. Most of them were in Jeeps but there were but there were 4 Toyota mini trucks with them.
 
greentruck - Thanks for the tip with the mudflaps, the damage to the flares was caused by the obstacles on the side. With the flares compromised a bit now they probably could do with less abuse from the flares.

How is the ride with the OME 862s compared to stock? Are they a progressive rate spring?
 

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