hey guys, i appreciate all the help ive got so far, the ammount of knowledge here is priceless. i dont want to beat a dead horse, but im having a little trouble finding a steering box here in san diego, finding a pre-74 gm car in the junkyards down here is next to imposssible, just curious if anyone down here maybe has been to the yards and seen somethin i missed. i know alot of people used impala boxes, i can tell you right now im not gonna find an impala at the yards. i did find a 69 or 70 elcomino, not sure if that quailifies for a "gm passenger car" that everyone says to look for or not. ok, thanks again for all the help.
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I have a data sheet at home on Saginaw boxes. I've been meaning to post it as a pic or technical note or something. If I remember I'll get that onto the forum tonight or tomorrow.
In the meantime, I think about any older GM car or truck box will work as long as it's the box that mounts in front of the tie rod. (Some of them are mounted behind the tie rod and are "reverse" rotation.)
You can use a 3-bolt or a 4-bolt box.
The input shaft will be either 3/4" or 13/16". Pretty sure either is OK. Just means choosing the right u-joint to use.
You can use whatever turn counts you find, i.e. 3 1/2, 4 1/4, etc. Less than 3 turns might feel a little "quick".
Some of them have a larger diameter piston, which is a little heavier duty. (These should have 4-bolt mounting as well.) The smaller "standard" size I think is 3 1/8", but it's hard to tell by looking which one you have. Some folks will say you need the bigger piston with 35" or larger tires.
I can email a pic of the data sheet if you like. Hit me at theo and give me a tongue lashing and I'll be sure to do it.
ps - You likely will need a Pitman arm puller, a pickle fork, and a BFH.
In the meantime, I think about any older GM car or truck box will work as long as it's the box that mounts in front of the tie rod. (Some of them are mounted behind the tie rod and are "reverse" rotation.)
You can use a 3-bolt or a 4-bolt box.
The input shaft will be either 3/4" or 13/16". Pretty sure either is OK. Just means choosing the right u-joint to use.
You can use whatever turn counts you find, i.e. 3 1/2, 4 1/4, etc. Less than 3 turns might feel a little "quick".
Some of them have a larger diameter piston, which is a little heavier duty. (These should have 4-bolt mounting as well.) The smaller "standard" size I think is 3 1/8", but it's hard to tell by looking which one you have. Some folks will say you need the bigger piston with 35" or larger tires.
I can email a pic of the data sheet if you like. Hit me at theo and give me a tongue lashing and I'll be sure to do it.
ps - You likely will need a Pitman arm puller, a pickle fork, and a BFH.
anybody know any other differences between the 3 bolt and 4 bolt boxes?
i have a 3 bolt on the cruiser now (PO mod) and was wondering if in my rebuildin of the entire cruiser i should try and get a different saginaw box.....
malphrus
i have a 3 bolt on the cruiser now (PO mod) and was wondering if in my rebuildin of the entire cruiser i should try and get a different saginaw box.....
malphrus
Get a four hole mount box thats got a 76 casted in. They came on chevells, impalas, gtos, almost any of the full frame big gms have this box. Also 73-79 Jeeps will have the correct box. A Jeep 3/4 ton box is the way to go if you want more turning power, but they are hard to come by. I got a box for a 68 chevelle at auto zone for $129. The same box for a Jeep CJ was $199. Same box slightly different application. They want more for the Jeep box because it says Jeep!
Another thing I found was the Wagoneer steering pumps seem to put out more pressure than the chevy PU pumps.
Another thing I found was the Wagoneer steering pumps seem to put out more pressure than the chevy PU pumps.
I use a 3 bolt 4.25 turn box off an 80s XJ. Search as I might I just couldn't find a 4 bolt 4 turn. It Hasn't broken yet (knock on wood). I think I might pick up another next time i'm in a yard, they have to be one of the most plentiful vehicals in the junk yards. It cost me around $30 at pull n save.
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Check this threads on pirate...parts numbers included!
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=307120&highlight=saginaw
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=307120&highlight=saginaw
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Franky40 said:
YES! I didn't the first time....hav'n to do it now!
I found an '84 Wagonner in a local junkyard with a complete saginaw PS system. Is it a good choice for a 40? What is the difference in the '84 vs the 60s and 70s boxes?
I also have a line on a 70s Scout system. Which one is best and what should I pay?
Thanks
I also have a line on a 70s Scout system. Which one is best and what should I pay?
Thanks
