Rough cost on front and rear lockers on 2018 LC200 (1 Viewer)

[Fishinsea]

Hi all,

So i'm now done with my lift, wheels and tires and am interested in starting my next upgrades.

I was going to do bumper and winch but i'm now leaning towards front and rear lockers with the ARB dual compressor

If someone can chime in with some costs involved, that would be great

Thanks again all.

 

[pcut]

Call Kurt- he's done a few.

Cruiser Outfitters

 

[empty80]

If you can do it yourself, you’re looking at $5800 prebuilt dropouts w/ ARB lockers from Just Differentials. If you’re educated and equipped enough to do the R&P yourself, you’ll obviously save yourself a ton of money here. If you have a shop do it, whether you go with drop-out or the R&P set-up it gets close to a wash. What you pay in dropouts you will save costs in labor. What you save on dropouts will cost you in labor.

Between $250-500 for air compressor depending on model. Sometimes you can buy lockers and get the compressor free.

$300 in gear oil (the first two changes come quick in the break-in period).

A major variable is how you want your switches configured. The ARB LINX system, SwitchPros and sPOD can significantly change the cost, and wiring can incur a decent amount of time to make it look tidy.

As mentioned above Kurt with Cruiser Outfitters, Christo/Amory at Slee, Eric Sergeant at Ed Martin Toyota and Rob at BudBuilt will be valuable resources if you choose to tread that path.

 

[Madtiger]

With CRAWL available and MTS for other situations, LC200 is plenty capable especially with your lift & tires. Have you tried CRAWL before deciding that lockers is a must have?

I would get sliders BEFORE considering going that lockers route. Why get lockers, which means you're into technical rock crawling and very difficult trails, and leave your sides totally unprotected?

 

[Fishinsea]

With CRAWL available and MTS for other situations, LC200 is plenty capable especially with your lift & tires. Have you tried CRAWL before deciding that lockers is a must have?

I would get sliders BEFORE considering going that lockers route. Why get lockers, which means you're into technical rock crawling and very difficult trails, and leave your sides totally unprotected?

So, I have played with the crawl control a little bit but Im in Virginia now, I plan going back to my other home in Durango Colorado in the fall for the colors and to do a bunch of mountain passes, I also have planned a trek up into Canada thru BC and into and into Alaska late fall.

As for sliders, yes, I am choosing those now and that is a simple weekend project I can do myself, Im looking into get a few of the bigger projects to get done that I cannot do, such as lockers, bumper and winch, then I have time to fiddle with it and get my break in on the lockers before my trips. Not sure if I really need front & rear lockers, but i am getting them, I think it will be a sweet set-up when I'm done. I do thank you all for chiming on my thread, this place is a wealth of knowledge

 

[Fishinsea]

If you can do it yourself, you’re looking at $5800 prebuilt dropouts w/ ARB lockers from Just Differentials. If you’re educated and equipped enough to do the R&P yourself, you’ll obviously save yourself a ton of money here. If you have a shop do it, whether you go with drop-out or the R&P set-up it gets close to a wash. What you pay in dropouts you will save costs in labor. What you save on dropouts will cost you in labor.

Between $250-500 for air compressor depending on model. Sometimes you can buy lockers and get the compressor free.

$300 in gear oil (the first two changes come quick in the break-in period).

A major variable is how you want your switches configured. The ARB LINX system, SwitchPros and sPOD can significantly change the cost, and wiring can incur a decent amount of time to make it look tidy.

As mentioned above Kurt with Cruiser Outfitters, Christo/Amory at Slee, Eric Sergeant at Ed Martin Toyota and Rob at BudBuilt will be valuable resources if you choose to tread that path.

I think I may give Eric a call, I have spoke to him a few times already about getting to where I am now on this, A road trip out there and possibly have them do all the work, They have done several and have it down verus someone here scratching their head trying to figure things out while they're on my dime. Thank you for sharing as I do Appreciate all the help I have gotten here

 

[Taco2Cruiser]

I think I may give Eric a call, I have spoke to him a few times already about getting to where I am now on this, A road trip out there and possibly have them do all the work, They have done several and have it down verus someone here scratching their head trying to figure things out while they're on my dime. Thank you for sharing as I do Appreciate all the help I have gotten here

Don’t road trip back with new gears. It’s a great way to way to waste thousands of dollars as you won’t be able to heat cycle the new gears. The results will be soft metal that wears much faster than needed.

Best is to have gears done local, and have the truck shipped back from a shop. Or, plan to spend about 500 miles of non highway driving with some cool downs.

Nothing crazy, but to get new gears, and hit the highway is not a good idea.

 

[Fishinsea]

Don’t road trip back with new gears. It’s a great way to way to waste thousands of dollars as you won’t be able to heat cycle the new gears. The results will be soft metal that wears much faster than needed.

Best is to have gears done local, and have the truck shipped back from a shop. Or, plan to spend about 500 miles of non highway driving with some cool downs.

Nothing crazy, but to get new gears, and hit the highway is not a good idea.

AHHHH, VERY GOOD point sir ! I shall heed that advice 100%

 

[CharlieS]

I think I may give Eric a call, I have spoke to him a few times already about getting to where I am now on this, A road trip out there and possibly have them do all the work, They have done several and have it down verus someone here scratching their head trying to figure things out while they're on my dime. Thank you for sharing as I do Appreciate all the help I have gotten here

I seem to recall that he only works on new vehicles, not used ones. Maybe I am misremembering?

 

[Mendocino]

@Fishinsea It sounds like you have a lot of things to do before lockers. As was noted, MTS on the 200 works very well. My 200 is very capably built and I spent 6 weeks in the field in it last year and found there were few times I even thought about lockers in Moab, Ouray, San Rafael Swell, CanyonLands, etc. Lockers are certainly cool and I have them in other LCs, but they are way down on the priority list for me in the 200. YMMV All the best, and I hope to see you on the trail.

 

[grinchy]

I had my put in by Nitro, they are kind of local to me.(2 hrs).
Round numbers
$1500 gears
$1000 per locker
12 hours shop time
I did other high mile maintenance while I was in there...
I was doing gears primarily, I ly added the rear locker
wanted to ensure good drive ability on tall tires

 

[stolikat]

I seem to recall that he only works on new vehicles, not used ones. Maybe I am misremembering?

You are correct. He outfits vehicles he sells only.

 

[Eric Sarjeant]

@grinchy is pretty close for ARBs and Nitros. I’d want more than 12 hours for two diffs though, probably 15-16. Don’t forget the pre-2016 front third member housing (new ones are $2000)... You can get used ones for less. Twin air compressor ($500-$600) plus mount ($150), stainless steel air lines ($100), manifold kit ($100). I break in the gears when we installed them because I don’t want the liability of them not getting speed cycled and cooled down properly as @Taco2Cruiser stated. That’s 12-hours or so (and a lost Sunday with the kids), then the oil change. Don’t forget seals, carrier bolts, and nice switches too.
Locking is not cheap. Probably a “final touch” as mentioned above to complete a build, unless money is not an object.

 

[CharlieS]

I'm not in the market, but out of curiosity, is the Haroop locker setup similar in price?

 

[Taco2Cruiser]

I'm not in the market, but out of curiosity, is the Haroop locker setup similar in price?

Some companies, like ECGS, charge an extra hour of labor for Harrops to be installed over an air locker in the case itself.

Some companies charge the same for Harrops and Air Lockers.

 

[Eric Sarjeant]

I'm not in the market, but out of curiosity, is the Haroop locker setup similar in price?

About the same over all... although the Harrops are about $200-$300 more each locker. There is no need for OBA stuff (compressor, lines, Mount, labor, manifold kit, etc).

 

[empty80]

Don’t road trip back with new gears.

This is my major limiting factor. I’m at the “icing on the cake” stage with my truck, but I don’t have anyone local I trust anymore. I’ve reversed or redone just about everything the local Toyota specialty shop has done, so I won’t consider them an option.

I’m 6 hours from Slee, 10 hours from Cruiser Outfitters and an eternity from BudBuilt. I’ve contemplated getting the dropouts built, and inviting the local cruiser club over for pizza, beers and the opportunity to destroy a fairly new truck.

 

[Eric Sarjeant]

This is my major limiting factor. I’m at the “icing on the cake” stage with my truck, but I don’t have anyone local I trust anymore. I’ve reversed or redone just about everything the local Toyota specialty shop has done, so I won’t consider them an option.

I’m 6 hours from Slee, 10 hours from Cruiser Outfitters and an eternity from BudBuilt. I’ve contemplated getting the dropouts built, and inviting the local cruiser club over for pizza, beers and the opportunity to destroy a fairly new truck.

I’d consider contacting Aaron Frost (@Riverrunner) at Summit Transportations. He could ship it to your shop of choice very reasonably. Gears/lockers are probably the one thing I’d suggest a professionals only job.

 

[grinchy]

You can also just ship the third members of there truly is no close by shop you trust.

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[Fishinsea]

As I figured this is a large project and half the battle is finding a A+ professional to do the job preferably one that has done this LC200 before

I believe this locker project will have to be postponed and instead concentrate on a onboard compressor, sliders and bumper/winch combo

Thank you all much for your input

I would also like to add a big thank you to Eric for solid advice and the help he has given me to get to the point i'm at now