Question about 40 Series Hunt

[Will Van]

The price on the 83 BJ42 on BaT did surprise me going for only $23K. Is the market going soft or economy down?

I think the fact that it clearly had some mechanical issues (albeit repairable) and some evidence of re-spray kept the price down. Assuming that the Cruiser was represented accurately online, that’s a good price for a diesel 5-speed Cruiser.

But without a personal inspection, compression test, and knowing the bodywork, it’s risky to pony up over $20k in an online auction.

The Buyer probably got a good deal. But he also ran the risk that it gets delivered in-person, and needs $10k worth of work.

 

[Living in the Past]

I think the fact that it clearly had some mechanical issues (albeit repairable) and some evidence of re-spray kept the price down. Assuming that the Cruiser was represented accurately online, that’s a good price for a diesel 5-speed Cruiser.

But without a personal inspection, compression test, and knowing the bodywork, it’s risky to pony up over $20k in an online auction.

The Buyer probably got a good deal. But he also ran the risk that it gets delivered in-person, and needs $10k worth of work.

My comment was it seems those who have more money than sense do not seem to be drivimg prices like they were. They are the ones who a fancy was the main thing they cared about. The 78 the TLC sold on BaT brought $100K was probably no better than this one. For a super low mileage that was supposed to have spend most it's life in a crate had a bunch of shoddy work on it. The market on the 40 series is changing just not sure of the reason.

 

[FJBen]

I think a lot of it is the marketing. There was a gray one that sold for WAY more than it should have because of fancy pictures.


$40k. The front and rear tires didn't even match.
1971 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ40

 

[Living in the Past]

I think a lot of it is the marketing. There was a gray one that sold for WAY more than it should have because of fancy pictures.


$40k. The front and rear tires didn't even match.
1971 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ40

A few years ago a friend of mine sold a 82 FJ40 at Barrett Jackson in Scottsdale. Of the 40s that sold at the auctions going on in the area it was towards the bottom end. To me it was the diamond in the rough. Worse thing I could see was the radio was cut and didn't have any radio. Also because it was 81+ it had a Carfax showing it had been in a accident. It did not have a salvage title. Not sure buyers understand if a vehicle was totaled at one time it was possible to clean a salvage title legally by registering it a state that only had one type of title. Once titled there has a clean title everywhere. Besides not having enough time I have decide restoring a few 40s and selling them isn't worth the gamble. Seen too many clean 40s sold for peanuts and some I would even bother to look at go for big bucks. Seen a few go for big buck thought were worth but just as many sold for far less than I thought they were worth. 40 series market is too unpredictable. Just glad it wasn't part of my retirement financial plan.

 

[Will Van]

A few years ago a friend of mine sold a 82 FJ40 at Barrett Jackson in Scottsdale. Of the 40s that sold at the auctions going on in the area it was towards the bottom end. To me it was the diamond in the rough. Worse thing I could see was the radio was cut and didn't have any radio. Also because it was 81+ it had a Carfax showing it had been in a accident. It did not have a salvage title. Not sure buyers understand if a vehicle was totaled at one time it was possible to clean a salvage title legally by registering it a state that only had one type of title. Once titled there has a clean title everywhere. Besides not having enough time I have decide restoring a few 40s and selling them isn't worth the gamble. Seen too many clean 40s sold for peanuts and some I would even bother to look at go for big bucks. Seen a few go for big buck thought were worth but just as many sold for far less than I thought they were worth. 40 series market is too unpredictable. Just glad it wasn't part of my retirement financial plan.

I think I've decided to buy and sell Land Cruisers because I really enjoy working on them, and I get to drive and enjoy them at the same time. It's more of a hobby.

But auction-style markets is not my method for buying or selling. I want more control over the process. I want to be able to inspect the Cruiser in person and negotiate directly with the seller when buying. And I want more control of the sale when selling.

 

[Will Van]

I have a quick question about adding A/C to a non-A/C FJ40 2F truck.

What is the best aftermarket A/C system? Vintage Air?

How much do you think it would cost to have a Vintage Air system turn-key installed by a reputable shop? $2,500 including the Vintage Air system and labor?

 

[Will Van]

I got a couple of quotes. It sounds like most of the A/C kits are about $1,500. Plus $1,000 to $1,200 for the install.

Does that sound about right?

 

[JohnnyC]

Yes that’s about right ... if your not the one going the work things will be costly ... but... think u know that

 

[Will Van]

Yes that’s about right ... if your not the one going the work things will be costly ... but... think u know that

 

[Fj moneypit]

I think a lot of it is the marketing. There was a gray one that sold for WAY more than it should have because of fancy pictures.


$40k. The front and rear tires didn't even match.
1971 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ40

That’s it I’m putting my on BaT and rolling the dice come on 40k!

 

[Will Van]

Went to go look at the LCN Freeborn Red truck this morning. Unfortunately, it was pretty disappointing. The paint job was AWFUL. It had been caked on and was running/rippling in several different places. It also had some bondo issues at the rear quarter-panel corners. The body work was not done well.

Plus, it had the "Heavy" OME suspension and rode terribly. I think it also needed steering work because I was sawing the wheel to keep it straight. Might need a rear main seal too, because I noticed oil dripping from the pan.

Not even close to a $22k truck.

Alas, the search continues.

 

[rghouse]

If you find one in Norcal I’ll check it out for ya

 

[Will Van]

If you find one in Norcal I’ll check it out for ya

Thx!

 

[Will Van]

Does this truck look like it needs new leafs? Is the suspension supposed to sag like that in the rear?

 

[Mr Cimarron]

Looks like it could use some love on the suspension.

 

[tls3601]

BAT is a gamble as well. @SSCR sold an incredibly well restored Mustard ‘77 that only went for $48K. Based on others that were a mis match of parts and poor craft, his should have EASILY sold for $75K. Actually I have seen ones that sold for 75 and more and they were not as original or nice as his. Roll the dice on auctions....

 

[Will Van]

BAT is a gamble as well. @SSCR sold an incredibly well restored Mustard ‘77 that only went for $48K. Based on others that were a mis match of parts and poor craft, his should have EASILY sold for $75K. Actually I have seen ones that sold for 75 and more and they were not as original or nice as his. Roll the dice on auctions....

Yeah, not really that interested in auctions any more. I want to see the vehicle in person.

 

[Will Van]

Looks like it could use some love on the suspension.

That’s what I think. Probably due for new springs and shocks.

Any suggestions on replacement components?

 

[FJBen]

Yep stock springs are tired.

Old Man Emu is kind of the go to lift.

 

[WarDamnEagle]

This ^^^^^