I have just recently bought a 75 FJ40 land cruiser equipped with a pto winch...i do not like the way you have to operate it..would you recommend the PTO winch or electric.... i have had many different brands of electric winches so if you think i need an electric winch which brand would you prefer..
PTO winch vs. electric winch
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Pskhaat
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Replied in other thread, but IMO you can't generally go wrong with Warn. Let me know when you want to sell your PTO setup, I'm interested.
Josie'sLandCruiser
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Hi All:
All depends on what type of four wheeling you are doing, and what kinds of conditions you are recovering the vehicle from.
From most rock crawling, trail running type 'wheeling a good electric winch works just fine. For repeated crossings of mud bogs I'd think the PTO would do better.
Do a search here on MUD - lots of chatter over the years on this topic.
Regards,
Alan
All depends on what type of four wheeling you are doing, and what kinds of conditions you are recovering the vehicle from.
From most rock crawling, trail running type 'wheeling a good electric winch works just fine. For repeated crossings of mud bogs I'd think the PTO would do better.
Do a search here on MUD - lots of chatter over the years on this topic.
Regards,
Alan
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There are lots of threads on the pro's and cons of PTO v. electric. Like others have said depends on what you are doing, where and in what you get stuck often. My goal is two winches, my 12K electrical and a hydraulic. I decided hydraulic over PTO solely because if your rig didn't come with a PTO OEM it is really hard to source the parts. Mine didn't so hydraulic it is. That being said your rig came with PTO. That alone is reason enough to keep it and learn how to use it well and in the right situations. Every guy I know who ditched an OEM PTO setup has kicked himself in the a s s for years after, knowing how hard and expensive they are to replace.
If it were me I'd just get an electric winch of my choice, there are several brands,Warn, Mile marker among many. Mount it in the rear and use it for most things. When the battery gets tired or the drum heats up from too long a pull switch over to the PTO, it will pull a barn down.
My .02
Good luck
If it were me I'd just get an electric winch of my choice, there are several brands,Warn, Mile marker among many. Mount it in the rear and use it for most things. When the battery gets tired or the drum heats up from too long a pull switch over to the PTO, it will pull a barn down.
My .02
Good luck
It still seems that the only downside to a hydro / pto driven winch is the fact that they don't work when the engine is off. The only three times it would be off, in my mind, is in a rollover, if you drown the engine or if you have some other type of engine failure ( coil, piston failure, etc. ).
Scenario 1, rollover: you roll your truck, it's banged up and you're frazzled but hopefully not hurt. If I landed upside down the last thing I would think of is using my winch to pull me back upright. Aside from that, it would take some impressive rigging and a lot of nearby trees to be able to get a front mounted winch to pull you sideways. This is one of the reasons why you are only supposed to offroad with multiple trucks, so they can help you after the rollover, and then they can right your truck with their truck. Advantage mechanical winch.
Scenario 2, drowning: If you are mudding or doing a river crossing and you drown out your engine, your front bumper and therefore winch is underwater. The engine is not running and therefore your mechanical winch would not work. However, because your electric winch is submerged, I'm not sure that would function either, or even if you could reach it. I know you can buy sealed electric winches and solenoid boxes but I am pretty sure they're not designed to run underwater. Yet another case where the best option is to have a second rig strap you out of the water. If your engine was running, even with the mechanical winch was under water, it would still function as long as you could reach it. My pitch is that if your engine stalls out during a water crossing / mud bog, then you probably have bigger issues than whether or not your winch works. Advantage: mechanical winch.
Scenario 3, engine failure: Let's say you're tooling around and your coil / igniter dies. You don't have a spare. While you could use an electric winch to get yourself out of whatever trail you happen to be on, you won't be doing it fast but you could do it. However, in this situation I would rather strap up to my wheeling buddy and have him pull me out to somewhere I can work on it. Advantage: electric winch.
I think I'm going to stick with mechanical winches, but to each his own. That's my 2 cents.
Scenario 1, rollover: you roll your truck, it's banged up and you're frazzled but hopefully not hurt. If I landed upside down the last thing I would think of is using my winch to pull me back upright. Aside from that, it would take some impressive rigging and a lot of nearby trees to be able to get a front mounted winch to pull you sideways. This is one of the reasons why you are only supposed to offroad with multiple trucks, so they can help you after the rollover, and then they can right your truck with their truck. Advantage mechanical winch.
Scenario 2, drowning: If you are mudding or doing a river crossing and you drown out your engine, your front bumper and therefore winch is underwater. The engine is not running and therefore your mechanical winch would not work. However, because your electric winch is submerged, I'm not sure that would function either, or even if you could reach it. I know you can buy sealed electric winches and solenoid boxes but I am pretty sure they're not designed to run underwater. Yet another case where the best option is to have a second rig strap you out of the water. If your engine was running, even with the mechanical winch was under water, it would still function as long as you could reach it. My pitch is that if your engine stalls out during a water crossing / mud bog, then you probably have bigger issues than whether or not your winch works. Advantage: mechanical winch.
Scenario 3, engine failure: Let's say you're tooling around and your coil / igniter dies. You don't have a spare. While you could use an electric winch to get yourself out of whatever trail you happen to be on, you won't be doing it fast but you could do it. However, in this situation I would rather strap up to my wheeling buddy and have him pull me out to somewhere I can work on it. Advantage: electric winch.
I think I'm going to stick with mechanical winches, but to each his own. That's my 2 cents.
Bogo
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For all three of those situations, the griphoist/trifor style hand winch works nicely. May be a bit slow, but no electrics or gas needed. Just muscle energy. You can use them with any length of cable that is the right size.
There are a number of different makes. This is just one of them.
From: 03. The Tuff-Pull 4WD Recovery Winch — 7700 lb.
I've been thinking of getting a very heavy duty one for the farm.
There are a number of different makes. This is just one of them.
From: 03. The Tuff-Pull 4WD Recovery Winch — 7700 lb.
I've been thinking of getting a very heavy duty one for the farm.
For all three of those situations, the griphoist/trifor style hand winch works nicely. May be a bit slow, but no electrics or gas needed. Just muscle energy. You can use them with any length of cable that is the right size.
There are a number of different makes. This is just one of them.
From: 03. The Tuff-Pull 4WD Recovery Winch — 7700 lb.
I've been thinking of getting a very heavy duty one for the farm.
we have pull-als like that at work that do 40,000 lbs .
