Ontario MTO Refusing JDM 12 Digit VIN & Export Certificate

[barryscruiser]

Hello everyone

I got my HDJ81 registered with the 12 digit vin and everything was ok back in December 2005. Now my friend got a 1991 HDJ81 and the ministry is refusing to take the export certificate (title) and the 12 digit VIN.

He was told that MTO has made changes to their system sometime in FEB and 12 Digit VIN cannot be entered and also they no longer accept export certificate as proof of ownership / title.

He was also told that the government is contacting Japan to find out about the 12 digit VIN etc... he had to wait until they figure out a solution.

I don't understand how Ontario MTO can freeze registration without first figuring out how it is going to be handled??? Sounds like big load of complicated BS. Anyone else facing this crap???

Barry
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1990 HDJ81 Electric Winch

 

[jcolvin]

In British Columbia one must apply for a "BC-assigned VIN" since ICBC does not accept the Japanese 12 digit VIN. It takes two days and costs $25; ICBC couriers you the VIN. Doesn't Ontario have a similar system? How do they register kit-cars etc?

Here you usually need an invoice/bill of sale in addition to the export certificate and your customs Form 1.

 

[brownbear]

if he can't get it registered....he may have to talk to someone out west and drive out to register it.....then go back with the 17 digit version.

only problem is taking it out to bc to do this......I would leave ontario....that would be the best option. Come west!

Also he should try a different MOT office. Did he use an importer, or do the self importing?

 

[brownbear]

He can pay me the tax to register it in BC, Give me a bill of sale, I will drive it for a few months, then give him a bill of sale and he can pay tax in Ontario with the 17 digit VIN. Just let me know eh!

I don't mind a free drive for a few months.

 

[barryscruiser]

Thanks for the suggestion

Going to another province is probably the way to go.... but man shipping back n forth to BC is going to kill hm

Barry
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1990 HDJ81 Electric Winch

 

[jcolvin]

Thanks for the suggestion

Going to another province is probably the way to go.... but man shipping back n forth to BC is going to kill hm

Ya really shouldn't need to. Ontario has a system for vehicles with no VIN: http://www.canadianrodder.com/features/fyi/registering.htm

V.I.N. Requirements
Assigned vehicle identification numbers (VINs) are issued for three groups of vehicles: rebuilt motor vehicles, kit cars, and homemade vehicles (NOTE: most of these are homemade trailers).

The prefix for a rebuilt vehicle VIN is RBT, for a kit car, ASD, and for a homemade vehicle, HOM. In all cases where an assigned VIN is required, the documentation required for registration would include a sworn affidavit (statutory declaration), describing where the main component parts (body, chassis/frame and engine, if applicable) were obtained, the reason that an assigned VIN is required, and a statement that the applicant is the legal and rightful owner of the completed vehicle.

Kit Car
If a kit car does not have a 17-digit vehicle identification number (V.I.N.) on the dashboard, MTO will assign a V.I.N. starting with "ASD" at the time the owner brings in the notarized affidavit for the vehicle, and registers it as "unfit" and unplated. The owner then gets the safety standards certificate using the ASD V.I.N.

Rebuilt Vehicle
For a rebuilt vehicle where the body V.I.N. cannot be determined, MTO will assign a 17 digit V.I.N. starting with "RBT" at the time the owner brings in the notarized affidavit for the vehicle, and registers it as "unfit" and unplated. The owner then gets the safety standards certificate using the RBT V.I.N.

I don't see why MOT can't supply you with a VIN as for a rebuilt vehicle. I'd suggest talking to the MOT about it. Also ask them what they do for "antique" or classic cars that don't have the modern VIN.

Here in BC when they generate the VIN, they use the frame # from the chassis in the VIN.