Miller 140 or Lincoln 140

[prado t]

Hi Team, I like many others here have some mid sized projects that I would like to do now that I have some room and metal stock to use.
I am a beginner stick welder and have some funds for a MIG welder. Both machines are the same price. I would like the Miller 180 but I believe it is 220 volt. I only have 110 where I am at so I think a 140 size will do. I really like the Miller because the way the dials are set up it takes the guess work out of the settings ie thickness of stock and amperage ? Where as the Lincoln from what I have been shown has a better wire feed ?
As for work I would like to do would be AXLE gussetting , Fabricate rock sliders and jerry can holders and some mild bodywork. Can I use a 140 size for this type of work?
Any advice will be greatly accepted. Thanks in advance and Seasons Greetings and Merry Christmas
Aaron Kuit

 

[fj40charles]

What makes you think Lincoln has better wire feed? Do you have pics showing the difference?
Miller is better if you care about customer support/service.

I hope you understand that a 110v welder is really good for max thickness of 1/8" in a single pass using solid wire.

 

[prado t]

What makes you think Lincoln has better wire feed? Do you have pics showing the difference?
Miller is better if you care about customer support/service.

I hope you understand that a 110v welder is really good for max thickness of 1/8" in a single pass using solid wire.

I have no proof , I was shown or it was explained to me from someone elses point of view.
I do like the Miller. As you were saying their customer service is better , that is good to know.
If I wanted to weld something thicker than 1/8" could I do another pass or multiple?
Any how I picked up the Lincoln 140T at a hell of a deal with my own gas cylinder from Air Liquide brand new not exchange cylinder. I will start using gas right away istead of flux-core.

 

[fj40charles]

I have no proof , I was shown or it was explained to me from someone elses point of view.
I do like the Miller. As you were saying their customer service is better , that is good to know.
If I wanted to weld something thicker than 1/8" could I do another pass or multiple?
Any how I picked up the Lincoln 140T at a hell of a deal with my own gas cylinder from Air Liquide brand new not exchange cylinder. I will start using gas right away istead of flux-core.

If you want to weld metals thicker than 1/8", I would grind out the metal so you have a "V." Also, pre-heating the metal will help and do multiple passes.

Get some .030 wire for it.

 

[copasspupil]

Got a electric dryer? If so, make a 220v extension cord for it. Also, make it long enough to weld outside. You might want to think about finding a used 175 or greater welder also. Once you buy something, you might change your mind or regret on buying the smaller welder.

Personally, I would buy the larger one. I bought a miller 180 tig and wished, after not knowing that I'd be welding thicker material, that I'd purchased a 250 one instead.

 

[prado t]

If you want to weld metals thicker than 1/8", I would grind out the metal so you have a "V." Also, pre-heating the metal will help and do multiple passes.

Get some .030 wire for it.

Great advice! Thanks I will try that

 

[prado t]

Got a electric dryer? If so, make a 220v extension cord for it. Also, make it long enough to weld outside. You might want to think about finding a used 175 or greater welder also. Once you buy something, you might change your mind or regret on buying the smaller welder.

Personally, I would buy the larger one. I bought a miller 180 tig and wished, after not knowing that I'd be welding thicker material, that I'd purchased a 250 one instead.

Unfortunately , I am in a condo and the stata would have a harry. I am kinda stuck in the inner city as of right now.
At work we have a huge machine ( dont know all the details) it is attached to our 600hp Brunnette Grizzly wood chipper. Its a CANNOX 480 volt its friggin huge

 

[craptabulous]

just look at the two welders over all build quality .

personally i hate miller . they have stupid designs . ever used one of there suit case welders ? changing from cc to cv is fun compared to a ln25 lincoln were the switch is brightly labeled on the front . no i would much rather get out a mirror and two coat hangers , watch a video and then take a welding course to figure out how to switch it from cc to cv .

lincoln's are set up so that any dumb ass can figure them out . millers .... not so much .

millers are find if your a welder and you know your machine , perhaps they are slightly higher quality . i doubt it though . personally i prefer most lincoln over millers . ranger series are superior to the bobcat millers , the ln25's are superior to what ever miller has .

honestly , nether will give you better welds or probably last longer . pick the color you like and the one that fits nicely in your hand . does one have more plastic then the other ? i would go for the tougher looking unit .

 

[AKcruiserfreak]

I just purchased a Miller 140 Millermatic MIG yesterday, and allready love it! Easy to work with, puts down some decent heat, welded up a slider and the weld seem to penetrate all the way through on 3/16 steel. Great welder for the beginner IMO.

TK

 

[fj40charles]

just look at the two welders over all build quality .

personally i hate miller . they have stupid designs . ever used one of there suit case welders ? changing from cc to cv is fun compared to a ln25 lincoln were the switch is brightly labeled on the front . no i would much rather get out a mirror and two coat hangers , watch a video and then take a welding course to figure out how to switch it from cc to cv .

lincoln's are set up so that any dumb ass can figure them out . millers .... not so much .

millers are find if your a welder and you know your machine , perhaps they are slightly higher quality . i doubt it though . personally i prefer most lincoln over millers . ranger series are superior to the bobcat millers , the ln25's are superior to what ever miller has .

honestly , nether will give you better welds or probably last longer . pick the color you like and the one that fits nicely in your hand . does one have more plastic then the other ? i would go for the tougher looking unit .

Miller has the 12RC and 12VS suitcase wire feeders. One is made for CC and the other is for CV. Tell me why the LN25 is better than my 12RC with digital meters?

The only Lincoln I would own over the Miller is the SA200.

 

[prado t]

I picked up the Lincoln 140T at KMS tools for 499.00 Can. Already have put a few hours a day on it. As for the 50lb bottle , it hasnt showed up yet. So using the flux-core for now.
Nice thing it uses 20 Amps . I can take it in my BJ74 24-12v at 25amp. When I grow -up I will get the Miller 211 dual voltage. As for now the Lincoln is super easy to use.