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I know you guys are full on off roaders but do any of you know how to make the LC200 ride like a soft luxury vehicle? I use my 200 on a daily basis and I just would like to make the ride softer since road conditions here in our country is less than smooth. Also, what tire would be the softest riding for the 200?
Many thanks in advance for all your advice. :)
 
Softer than the stock suspension? or aftermarket?

The LC200 with the factory springs is about as soft as it gets. After all it is a truck-derivative body-on-frame. It's definitely not a squishy crossover.

The only thing softer would be the AHC of the LX570.

What about a tunable suspension that you could slow the dampening? Also, you could run lower PSIs.
 
JB: Thanks for the reply. Yes, softer than factory. We have less than smooth roads so your 'soft suspension' in the States is 'hard' here in the Philippines.
Tried going down from 32psi to 30psi but still hard.
What kind of tunable suspension are you referring to?
I was thinking softer dampening shocks and softer springs.
Was also thinking of junking the oem tires, which are yokohamas.
Any advice on softer tires as well?
 
i frequently drive my LC on logging roads that probably are similar quality. one of the reasons i've come to love it so much is that if i just speed up a bit, the suspension really kicks in (stock) and the ride smooths out. if you go too slow, you'll just wallow in and out of the holes.

you could also try getting 17inch wheels.
 
What about talking with one of the coilover manufacturers and getting them to valve something that gives a ride you are looking for? I know that most of them start production when you place an order, so they may be able to play with the dampening and rebound to give you what you are looking for.
 
Thanks for the advice!

Mark71: I'm already on 285-65 r17 tires and going faster is not an option for me. :)

Chimyz: Which manufacturer specifically would be the best to approach?
 
jpracing, I know exactly how the road are in the Philippines I grew up in Metro Manila and I have my fair share of bent or cracked wheels on my Honda.

The truth is you may never get your 200 to ride like a Rolls Royce. The 200 is design to be a tough off road vehicle. Therefore, the suspension components are heavy duty which makes for a high unsprung weight. The unsprung weight has a direct affect on the ride quality and feel of the vehicle.

From my experience tuning and designing vehicle suspension, there is no single shock setting that will work for all conditions. If you tune your shocks it to soak up low speed bumps or pot holes it will be too soft for high speed conditions and vise versa.

I believe Toyota did what it could when selecting the shock valving on the 200 to give it a good balance between low speed comfort and high speed performance and stability.

If you want a softer riding 200. Many of my friends in the Philippines are switching out their rear coil springs for the US market ones. It lowers the rear so you don't have the stink bug look plus it is softer hence a better ride. I would probably think the shocks in the US might be tuned differently then the ones there.

For the tires you can try Michelin and lowering the PSI to 25psi or lower. This is bad for handling and tire wear but might give the ride you are looking for.

As far as shock manufacturers goes. I love KONI and I have worked with them in many occasions. They have a shock called the FSD that might interest you but they are only made for passenger cars. Here is the link Koni: FSD

Lastly, take a ride in an ordinary SUV and recalibrate your senses. You'll notice a night and day difference when you get back to your LC200 that you'll forget about this thread.

Good Luck and keep us posted!
 
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CivicFerio: Thanks for the info! Much appreciated!
I agree in that the 200 will never ride like a high end luxury car. I was just looking
to soften up the suspension so I don't feel 50% of the bumps and crevices of our roads.
Great info on Koni shocks. I doubt, however, that I can run 25psi on any tire. ;-)
I've compared the ride of my 200 to a lot of suv's here (escalade, yukon xl, suburban, etc.)
and have found the american suv's to have very insulating suspensions. The window seals may
introduce wind and tire noise into the cabin, but suburbans have great suspensions for third world roads.
Thanks again for the advice and info.
 
jpracing.. i found mine to be too soft. i instead of changing the suspension, i change from 17 to 20 inches (285/50) and now it rides very well! it is a lot more sure footed at high speed and the "soft" suspension soaks up most of the potholes. i highly recommend it. cheers and good luck!
 
jpracing.. i found mine to be too soft. i instead of changing the suspension, i change from 17 to 20 inches (285/50) and now it rides very well! it is a lot more sure footed at high speed and the "soft" suspension soaks up most of the potholes. i highly recommend it. cheers and good luck!

Singapore has great roads, La. If I change to twenties here, i'd be jiggling all over the place. :bounce2:
 
jpracing may i suggest to you either remove your 3rd roll chairs completely or put them down. they give too much vibration over the potholes. i removed my 3rd roll seats completely as i do not need them. cheers! - jennifer
 
There is no vibration coming from my third row seat and I am quite sure they have nothing to do with the ride quality of the rig. What I need is a softer ride. I think this can only be done with softer dampers and springs. In the process of researching but haven't found anything yet. Any help from anyone would be appreciated very much. :)
 
jpracing.. one of my other car is a LS460L.. i highly recommend it for comfort ride. i do regular dash from singapore to kuala lumpur sometime day trip even. LS460L ride beautifully both high and low speed and very comfortable over rough KL city central roads. reserve your LC200 for those adventurous weekend trips. ;)
 
Hahahaha!!!
Yes, the 460L will have a better ride. Just want to improve the ride on the 200.:)
And, I have an E60 M5 for the weekend. ;)
 
To soften a ride, there are a few ways. Combined, the softer the ride will be:

1) Smallest rim (17") with 33" tires running at 25-30psi.
2) Adjustable suspension with adjustable dampening controls.
3) Lift with light springs.
 
To soften a ride, there are a few ways. Combined, the softer the ride will be:

1) Smallest rim (17") with 33" tires running at 25-30psi.
2) Adjustable suspension with adjustable dampening controls.
3) Lift with light springs.

Thanks JB:cheers:

Can you suggest some manufacturers of the adjustable dampers and the lighter springs?
 

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