Hino W04C-TI swap

[bjowett]

Hey everyone... All this diesel talk being tossed about and the fact that my 1FZ-FE is making some unhealthy noises has me considering going that route.... again. After plenty of Google searches, and knowing I like Toyota parts for my Land Cruiser, I have narrowed my choice to to a Hino W04C-TI. For all intents and purposes, it is a Toyota 'B' engine. 4 cyl., displacment is almost 3.9L, direct injection (?), turbocharged, a bigger healthier 13BT. Non intercooled versions produce 155 hp and from what I can gather, over 300 ft/lbs of torque. Intercooled versions push upwards of 200hp/400ft/lbs. A little tuning could bring that easily higher. Overall length is about 24", height is close to that of the 1FZ, and so is width. Here is a picture of a core engine I found....

More to come... have at my choice!

 

[Radd Cruisers]

Looks good and I would guess the price is right.

I might know of a 1HD-FT engine auto tranny and transfercase for sale?

 

[HI^C]

well i seen you post about this thing in another thread, and so i came back again to this one.

i decided i need to know, WTH is that thing, got links/more info on that?

i can tell you i heard of it, but if i havent seen one they are expensive and probably not easily found.
but again toyota diesels i think i only know of one. but then again they are expensive and very hard to find.

 

[folsom50]

I see just as many Hino cabovers driving around here as I see Isuzu NPR's, but I know nothing about a Hino motor.

Is that a Hino is the pic? Bolt pattern for bell housing looks kind of interesting, from what I can see.

 

[bjowett]

Thanks for the 1HD FT offer... I may have a friend interested in that. ... PM me!

Hino = HD Toyota box truck, they build most of the factory Toyota diesels for the light truck line, too.

That is the Hino W04C T pictured above. Again, it is a big 3B/13BT engine... unsure if the bolt pattern on the block is the same... The bellhousing may/may not be an issue, depends on if the t-case can be adapted easier. A friend and I plan to find a good engine and Hino transmission for swapping.... not sure if it will be 80 bound, or something else, maybe one of his 40s.

The Hino 5 speed transmission looks like a larger H series, probably Aisin. The main case is 14" long. The 5 speeds have a crawler first, some are in the 6.x to 1 range, others have a 7.4! Unfortunately, most have a direct drive 1 to 1 5th. There is also a 6 speed though.


Trans. pic... note remote/cable shift linkage

I'll get some more pictures up asap.

 

[theSherpa]

I found this:

snippage>>
Date: 23 Sep 96 13:51:58 EDT
From: Ted Skinner <74451.2152@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: 55 wagons
To: TLCA List

>>I must stick up for the old wagons as I have ridden many an on and
>>offroad mile in these trucks. If you are not going to use a landcruiser for
>>all of its abilities than why not trade it for a grand cheroke and join the
>>yuppies.
>>< Does anyone know if there is a 13BT used by Hino in Canada and if it will
>>bolt up to a 3B bellhousing and 5spd.? does anyone out there actually work
>>for Hino that has worked with any engine relocating in whole or in pieces to
>>BJ 60 or 70 cruisers? >
>>Steve Morris TLCA 1543 1985 BJ70

Having just lived through the "should I fix or replace my 3B" question I'll add
a little of what I learned. Once I discovered how much it cost to repair these
diesels I started investigating re-power options. I wanted to stay with a
diesel under the hood so I checked out many alternatives.

The "smallest" Hino engine I found was called a W04C(T). It is the closest
equivalent to the 13BT, It is a really nice power plant and looks very similar
to the 13BT. Same shape and placement of accessories etc but it is MUCH bigger
and is a lot heavier. The bellhousing bolt pattern is similar but will not
match. The engine is definitly Industrial and run 800,000 km's in a 4 ton truck
before a rebuild. Pumps out 150 hp and somewhere around 350-400 ft/lbs of
torque. If you don't have a core to trade in it will cost you about $8K in
canada here to pick a bebuilt one up, and then you have to make it fit. The six
speed transmission that bolts onto it is HUGE in comparison so you would have a
lot of work ahead of you. (hey but that never stopped us before).

I also checked out options with the 3.9L Cummins 4 cyl, the GM 6.2 V8(don't do
it), and a Detroit Diesel 4-53 4cyl and the Ford 7.3L. The bottom line is I
decided what I really wanted was a reliable and economical engine with good
torque... so I rebuilt my 3B...

Ted Skinner TLCA Member, 1981 BJ-42

<<end snippage

Steve

 

[HI^C]

HOLY COW 8k canadian for rebuilt without core!

dont know what the ca to us$ is right now but sounds like alot o loot.

I still dont think i have ever seen a hino, but i am going to search the
net to see what one looks like.

 

[bjowett]

I did see that in my recent search.... problem with it? It is 8 years ago.... has anyone really attempted to bolt anything together? It dosn't mention using the Hino trans and adapting a t-case. Heavier and bigger... no numbers though.

I just found a complete 93 Hino FB1715 w/ 75k!!!!!!!! miles, hit/wrecked high in the cab, owner said take the whole truck for $2k USD, it has been sitting for some time... That thang is just a baby! I'll post pics of next week.

 

[folsom50]

I just found a complete 93 Hino FB1715 w/ 75k!!!!!!!! miles, hit/wrecked high in the cab, owner said take the whole truck for $2k USD, it has been sitting for some time... That thang is just a baby! I'll post pics of next week.

Considering that a rebuild on your stocker is as much or more than $2k, that really looks like the way to go. As long as the drivetrain can be made to bolt up.

 

[77fj40]

mmmm fj80 + Hino

 

[ridgerunner]

I thought Diahatsu was responsible for the B series engines, and Hino built the H series?

 

[bjowett]

Guess I missed this twice...

I let the Hino swap slide for various reasons.... mainly time. Not sure who made what diesel...