That's like saying "If i swapped my 50 year old pecker for a cheese stick, I won't get as hard as an 18year old" . . .
fj40 axle is stronger or fj80 is
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Obviously my guidance was misdirected.
Nah, just struck me as a funny statement . . .
Some Suzuki Samurai guys swap in 40 axles...
Fj40 axles usually aren't swapped because they are too narrow and the brakes are crappy. 40 shafts are made from old metallurgy, 80 shafts are made from newer metallurgy. 80 birfields are bigger probably because it's a awd vehicle. The larger birfields were probably needed to get the wear rate Toyota wanted. Stock 80 birfields last 150k miles or so. You can upgrade the birfields for greater strength, but they will wear out faster.
Now ya done it... you opened that door to the old LCML rantings just a bit further.
There has been a long running misunderstanding. And it really pisses old FK off sometimes. Ya see, in his opinion *I* am not the First Knight. He just occupies some of my skull sometimes.
On those rare occasions when he climbs down off of his (T)rusty sweed (when your battle horse is a swine, it is called a Sweed. Apparently), and sets his sword on the table (he insists that it is Ed's Red dripping from the blade, not actual blood... and who am I to argue?)... He just borrows my fingers to type out his missives to the faithful. These days, it is seldom more than a few quick lines then he is gone. Back to searching through the maze of the Infinite Bazzar for PTO driveshafts, late 1968 F engine intakes, split case parking brakes and other pieces of booty. When he is not doing battle with his nemesis Maximus Ferrous Oxidious or chasing the disease ridden jeep salesman away from the womenfolk.
Mark...
who said anything about a cheap Chinese birf?
You did
That's what a Trail gear brif is
And I half to agree with @baldilocks a 80 birf is stronger then a 40 birf no matter how you slice it. Size matters.
lol, so over this. you gotta read the previous messages before commenting. there are more then just longfeilds friend. and there all gonna be stronger then oem 80 cvs, and there all gonna be smaller too.You did
That's what a Trail gear brif is
And I half to agree with @baldilocks a 80 birf is stronger then a 40 birf no matter how you slice it. Size matters.
Oh, and whoever said the 80 is longer? not sure where they read that? 47 is at least a couple inches longer wheelbase then an 80.
this whole conversation went the way of the modern progressive discussion: someone asks question that questions the status quo. status quo gets angry and takes it personal. argument ensues. division is created.
i just wanted to ask questions and get more considered answers then "bigger is better" so I could make a decision based on actually understanding rather then just being told.
the 47 no, the 45 however was brought over and its parts are the same other then the diesel motor. and all the axles of the same era/spline are the same. yes, birf is bigger on an 80, again though, thats still a matter of metallurgy. steel has changed over the last 100 years. notice how a 60 year old car in a field beat by the elements day in day out for 50 years wont have any rot, just surface rust? thats cause the metal wasnt cut like cheap coke. as far as ive been told.
I can buy a TG HD birf for my 40 that is undeniably stronger then an oem 80 birf, and is still undeniably smaller as well, jus sayin. so accounting for diminishing steel quality i personally would design my parts larger to account for it. and I imagine thats what toyota did. so not necessarily making them stronger. not fighting to winjust trying to consider all the variables on top of the more obvious ones. if anyones done considerable wheeling on both and broken more of one then the other id be more convinced.
I did
And any after market birf that you can get for a 40 you can get for a 80 and the 80 will still be stronger. Bigger = stronger simple
I wish you a good day this is my last post on the subject
Wow can this thread go back to sleep for another 21 years. Jesus.
If this bull**** goes on any longer I will lock this ancient thread down. I mean it.
no longer on the actual topic here but just as someone that doesnt actually frequent forums all that much, what is the issue with nonsense and bull****? does it clogg the feed or something? I never really understood the displeasure with nonsense threads? this is an earnest question, as a person guilty of perpetuating bull**** hahaha. so I dont want to get anyone annoyed, im just honestly curious what problems it causes for anyone that doesent want to be involved? I love this forum as it is an invaluable source of knowledge and others experience, so i dont want to step on any toes sorry to add to this lol. feel free to clap it shut hahaha.
I think this is a Fair question. I think I'm equally as guilty if not more so a few page's back. I felt like Deleting a few of my post. But I figured the damage was already done.
The last few post were just Personal opinions relating to the Original Question twenty one years ago.
So what was/is the problem and if there was a issue why did you wait so long !
You even played along Dan
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