fj40 axle is stronger or fj80 is

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cruiserdan said:
Holly revival! This thread is 3 months shy of being able to walk into the local bar. :rofl:
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hahahaha just wastin time firing up ancient areguments that really dont matter at all hahahaha. "i need a rope to get over this 20ft wall!" " i got a 25 foot rope and a 30 foot rope, which would you prefer?" "oh the 30 ft of course, its gotta be better"
 
calen said:
the 47 no, the 45 however was brought over and its parts are the same other then the diesel motor. and all the axles of the same era/spline are the same. yes, birf is bigger on an 80, again though, thats still a matter of metallurgy. steel has changed over the last 100 years. notice how a 60 year old car in a field beat by the elements day in day out for 50 years wont have any rot, just surface rust? thats cause the metal wasnt cut like cheap coke. as far as ive been told.

I can buy a TG HD birf for my 40 that is undeniably stronger then an oem 80 birf, and is still undeniably smaller as well, jus sayin. so accounting for diminishing steel quality i personally would design my parts larger to account for it. and I imagine thats what toyota did. so not necessarily making them stronger. not fighting to win :) just trying to consider all the variables on top of the more obvious ones. if anyones done considerable wheeling on both and broken more of one then the other id be more convinced.
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Sounds like your taking it personally 🤷‍♂️

What’s I know for sure is the 80 will out wheel a 40 all day long. Or a 47 😎

And TG parts suck.
And if you want to go there RCV is a much stronger after market axle
 
hahahaha sounds like you are! I didnt birth the truck, i got no blood ties to it. and getting stronger axles for a the 40 is not prohibitive, so why would i take it personally? i just want to know more then just accepting bigger is better. its way easier to just scroll past if this conversation if its annoying to you. responding seems like the worst way to not be involved.
 
calen said:
hahahaha sounds like you are! I didnt birth the truck, i got no blood ties to it. and getting stronger axles for a the 40 is not prohibitive, so why would i take it personally? i just want to know more then just accepting bigger is better. its way easier to just scroll past if this conversation if its annoying to you. responding seems like the worst way to not be involved.
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I don’t think it really matters, others that know way more then me made strong agreements

The old cars were made of much thicker metal, I don’t know if it was stronger or not.
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Broski said:
I don’t that it really matters, other that know way more then me made strong agreements

The old car were made of much thicker metal, I don’t know if it was stronger or not. View attachment 3713872

Any thing can be make stronger
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I am having a hard time understanding what you have typed here. but yes. the 40 body and frame is at least 1mm if not 2mm thicker then the cruisers that followed it. cant say for certain, but yes, chances are the metal was better in the past and so not only is it thicker but it is most likely stronger. yes anything can be made stronger. could not say one way or the other about trail gear quality, never bought anything, it just happened to be the first to mind thinking about after market hd birfs. there are several, and all of them will be smaller then an oem 80 axle, and they will all be stronger then the oem 80 axle. that is my point. the size is not whats making them stronger, its the metal used.

ive never been made aware of the magic they installed in the 80, but id love to know why you think the 80 would outwheel a 40 all day every day? there is barely a difference in terms of wheeling. wheel base, width, clearance, power. only one up that the 80 has is better approach angle without the spring hangers. pretty sure the driver is the difference when it comes to cruiser capability. hell, i dont believe the car is the difference most of the time, across all brands and models.
 
calen said:
I am having a hard time understanding what you have typed here. but yes. the 40 body and frame is at least 1mm if not 2mm thicker then the cruisers that followed it. cant say for certain, but yes, chances are the metal was better in the past and so not only is it thicker but it is most likely stronger. yes anything can be made stronger. could not say one way or the other about trail gear quality, never bought anything, it just happened to be the first to mind thinking about after market hd birfs. there are several, and all of them will be smaller then an oem 80 axle, and they will all be stronger then the oem 80 axle. that is my point. the size is not whats making them stronger, its the metal used.

ive never been made aware of the magic they installed in the 80, but id love to know why you think the 80 would outwheel a 40 all day every day? there is barely a difference in terms of wheeling. wheel base, width, clearance, power. only one up that the 80 has is better approach angle without the spring hangers. pretty sure the driver is the difference when it comes to cruiser capability. hell, i dont believe the car is the difference most of the time, across all brands and models.
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If you have to ask then you don’t wheel much.
A 80 will flex much better than a 40 Which keeps the tires in contact with the ground it’s linked which keeps the wheels from hopping. It’s wider and longer which keeps it more stable, and it came from the factory with lockers.
There’s no comparison stock to stock !
 
Broski said:
If you have to ask then you don’t wheel much.
A 80 will flex much better than a 40 Which keeps the tires in contact with the ground it’s linked which keeps the wheels from hopping. It’s wider and longer which keeps it more stable, and it came from the factory with lockers.
There’s no comparison stock to stock !
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ok sounds like its getting personal there bud. hahahaha. spose wheelin alot is relative. not sure how much wheelin ya got to do to end up surrounded by 80s and 40s to compare. Personally, i wheel to get away from people, and have done so for the past 13 years. not saying thats a long time, just saying i didnt pick it up yesterday. so no, i dont have any trucks around me that arent the trucks that i left with. never wheeled with an 80, so all i can compare my barely moded 47 troopy to is a 3"lifted all Superior Engineering suspended 96 patrol shorty on 35s. Neither of us have broken anything and the only time ive needed a tug from the patrol is in a deep skinny ditch that my long wheelbase made difficult. and i know your not gonna argue that the 80 is more capable or stronger then a patrol. so can we bring this back to clean talk and not try and insult people on their time in the dirt behind the wheel? this isnt instagram. this however has gone off track.
 
calen said:
ok sounds like its getting personal there bud. hahahaha. spose wheelin alot is relative. not sure how much wheelin ya got to do to end up surrounded by 80s and 40s to compare. Personally, i wheel to get away from people, and have done so for the past 13 years. not saying thats a long time, just saying i didnt pick it up yesterday. so no, i dont have any trucks around me that arent the trucks that i left with. never wheeled with an 80, so all i can compare my barely moded 47 troopy to is a 3"lifted all Superior Engineering suspended 96 patrol shorty on 35s. Neither of us have broken anything and the only time ive needed a tug from the patrol is in a deep skinny ditch that my long wheelbase made difficult. and i know your not gonna argue that the 80 is more capable or stronger then a patrol. so can we bring this back to clean talk and not try and insult people on their time in the dirt behind the wheel? this isnt instagram. this however has gone off track.
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I don’t mean to offend
I have a 40 And a 80 there just no comparison
And ya I have Wheeling for five decades.
I think the 40 is way cooler, but it’s inferior in every way, except for metal thickness.
 
Broski said:
I don’t mean to offend
I have a 40 And a 80 there just no comparison
And ya I have Wheeling for five decades.
I think the 40 is way cooler, but it’s inferior in every way, except for metal thickness.
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hahaha all good, ill have to disagree. but maybe ill change my tune in a few years. but doubt it ;) if roothies driven side by side with every 4x4 under the sun and continues to rock a 40...
 
Never mind 80s suck 🤪
 
OGBeno said:
Did everyone start drinking early today? :lol:
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LOL, smoking crack I think!

I can never decide if I just roll on the floor laughing at discussions when they take this turn, or if i want to shake my head in disgust.

Anytime someone says that any rig is the best. I stop listening.

Well, other than the fact that the Iron Pig is the best vehicle ever created by man for any and every use that any human could ever imagine.

The First Knight Of The Iron Pig has spoken. ;)

Mark...
 
Broski said:
Sounds like your taking it personally

What’s I know for sure is the 80 will out wheel a 40 all day long.
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I’ve got a 63 fj40 currently on 30” tires and I know a trail up into the mountains that an 80, especially a big 80 would be wedged and body damaged cause it’s so big and tall and wide! (6 pack challenge!!!) With my windshield folded down I barely fit under big branches that have overgrown the trail. Apples to oranges comparison! Just sayin that’s a WHOLE other argument Richard!
 
mesa man said:
I’ve got a 63 fj40 currently on 30” tires and I know a trail up into the mountains that an 80, especially a big 80 would be wedged and body damaged cause it’s so big and tall and wide! (6 pack challenge!!!) With my windshield folded down I barely fit under big branches that have overgrown the trail. Apples to oranges comparison! Just sayin that’s a WHOLE other argument Richard!
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Nice looking 80 in you avatar 😎

I always say the only thing stops a 80 is her fat a**

But ya everybody idea of Wheeling is different.

The idea is to enjoy the ride and I’m over arguing about it.

To be clear I really like 40s and you have a really nice one Gabe !
 
You gotta love the Land Cruiser diversity!
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