3-point retro in the 60 (1 Viewer)

[marcfj60]

While the retrofit 3-point belts in the back seat of the 60 are an improvment, they are pretty much useless for belt positioning booster seats for my kids. The belt positioning booster is the hi-back type booster seat that has some kind of clip in the shoulder area of the seatback that routes the shouldber belt correctly for a shorter person. The seatback is too far back compared the to the mounting location for the shoulder belt on the c-pillar. The seatbelt actually has to travel backwards to get to the belt positioning clips before it goes forward again. As I tighten up the manually adjusted shoulder belt, it begins to pull the top of the seat forward while attempting to make the shoulder belt straight. On the bright side, both the lap and shoulder belt in the back seat of a 60 tighten up and lock (ratchet on the lap, manual adjustment on the shoulder) so the kids are very securely stuck in their seats. There's no slack for them to move around and then can't easily reach and pester each other.

I have not tried them yet with the backless style boosters but even when I sat in the back seat and tested the belts the C-pillar/seatback relationship still is an issue. The upper mounting point for the shoulder belt on the c-pillar simply is too far forward so there is a gap between the belt and my chest until it gets to about my waist. Although, I'd much rather be restrained with this solution than no shoulder belt at all.

I do have some traditional child safety seats that have their own 5-point harness built-in but haven't tried them yet. I expect that they will work just fine because I used them previously without the shoulder belt.

All of this is simply one more reason why an 80-series may be a better choice for people with younger children who still have to worry about child seats and booster seats.

 

[slimbuddha]

Just a thought, in case you plan on expanding the family. In my 99, I have actually fit a carseat, and two boosters in the third row. Middle has just the lap belt, but works for securing a carseat. I went on one day trip to the Jemez with 3 boosters, 1 carseat, and 4 adults, and it wasn't cramped at all. Just used a cargo hitch to take the cooler, chairs, etc.

 

[marcfj60]

Just a thought, in case you plan on expanding the family. In my 99, I have actually fit a carseat, and two boosters in the third row. Middle has just the lap belt, but works for securing a carseat. I went on one day trip to the Jemez with 3 boosters, 1 carseat, and 4 adults, and it wasn't cramped at all. Just used a cargo hitch to take the cooler, chairs, etc.

Impressive. I am curious if the other 3 adults were all relatives and if their stature is similar to yours.

Does the middle row in your 100 have a lap-only or a 3-point in the center position?

Does the third row in an 80 have 2 or 3 seatbelts and are they 3-point belts?

 

[Ruadhrigh]

Impressive. I am curious if the other 3 adults were all relatives and if their stature is similar to yours.

 

[slimbuddha]

Impressive. I am curious if the other 3 adults were all relatives and if their stature is similar to yours.

Does the middle row in your 100 have a lap-only or a 3-point in the center position?

Does the third row in an 80 have 2 or 3 seatbelts and are they 3-point belts?

Nice. They were all taller than me, including one that sat in the middle row that is over 6'.

Middle row on the 100 has a three point belt in the middle seat. They do not have the LATCH system until 2000 or 2001, but there is a tether point.

I believe the FJ80's had a three seat belt configuration in the back, with a lap-belt in the middle, and i'm pretty sure a 3-point for the other two. For the FJZ80's, it was changed to a 2 belt configuration, both 3-point. I'm not 100% positive on this though.

 

[marcfj60]

They were all taller than me, including one that sat in the middle row that is over 6'.

That's pretty good to have 6-footers comfortable in the middle row and not feel crowded by the booster seat or other adult.

Hopefully I didn't offend too much with that question. I just wanted to make sure I understood how tall (or wide for that matter) the adults were sitting in the middle row.

I'm not too concerned with the LATCH system since my kids are both too big to use the system according to its guidelines. And the odds of us having any more kids are about 0.1%

 

[Beowulf]

Does the third row in an 80 have 2 or 3 seatbelts and are they 3-point belts?

None of the years for the 80-Series have the infant seat tether. Several threads in the 80-section on how to implement a tether system but I wasn't interested so I didn't follow those threads.

The 2nd row (all years) have a center lap belt and 2 shoulder/lap belts for the outboard 2nd row passengers.

The 3rd row for 91-94 have a center lap belt and 2 shoulder/lap belts for the outboard 3rd row passengers. Beginning in 95 (IIRC) Toyota dropped the middle lap belt in the 3rd row. However, the belt is the same p/n as the middle belt for the 2nd row and many have retrofitted the 3rd row belts to their 95,96,97 models, making the truck an 8-passenger vehicle.

Many guys have removed their 3rd row as the 80 users have gone to other vehicles for DD use and relegated their trucks to trail use.

A few years ago there were a number of threads on changes to the 2nd row and 3rd row for improving use for passengers. The 3rd row can be modified to tilt back a little for seating flexibility. The 2nd row can have "recliners" fitted. These replacement hinges were available in the JDM market and enable the 2nd row to fully recline like the 1st row reclines (nearly horizontal.) Again, this mod didn't interest me so I didn't follow those threads but now you know in case that is something you want to do.

The 100-Series is considerably wider than the 80-Series so 2 adults and a car seat would not be comfortable for long trips in an 80. I carried an adult in the PS, 3 scouts (~13 yo) in the 2nd row and 2 scouts in the 3rd row. It was cramped and unpleasant when one of them farted which was about every 5 minutes.

-Mike-

 

[marcfj60]

It was cramped and unpleasant when one of them farted which was about every 5 minutes.

-Mike-

I'm sure you were never a source for any of those farts.

 

[slimbuddha]

unpleasant when one of them farted which was about every 5 minutes.

-Mike-

The extra room in a 100 would still be just as uncomfartable in this situation.