2000 4Runner clutch/shifting issues (1 Viewer)

[KingSpence]

Alright, so I've got a few issues with my newly acquired 2000 4Runner. Sitting stopped, in neutral, with the clutch to the floor, when I go to put into any gear it does not want to go in. It feels like there is a wall blocking it from going into gear; I'm afraid if I force it it will grind. As soon as I start to move, the transmission shifts perfect, no grinds or pop-outs to speak of, and it transfers in and out of gear smoothly.

The clutch was replaced 30,000kms ago. The truck has 190,000kms.

My first assumption was that the clutch just needed to be adjusted, but this is where my issues start. The Hayes manual calls for 6.77-7.17 inches of pedal height. The most height I can get until I run out of thread on the pushrod is ~5.60 inches; and when unbolted from the pushrod the most pedal height I can get is 7inches before the pedal arm hits a bracket. Is the Hayes manual wrong? I replaced the oil in the transmission, and there was no metal or debris in the oil. I also bled the system but got no air.

Any ideas? Could it be my clutch master cylinder or the clutch slave cylinder wearing out maybe?

Thanks
Spencer

 

[Duane]

Not certain but here are some thoughts.
If your clutch actuator cylinders, linkage etc where the problem I can't imagine it would drive normally and just give you this problem when stopped in neutral.
Most manuals I have driven if the clutch could not be disengaged when trying to put it in gear would simply cause a grinding of gears.
On manual transmissions if I can't get it to go into a gear then I would let the clutch out to spin the transmission input shaft and then disengage the clutch again and try to put it into gear again. Will it go into 2nd but not 1st then perhaps a shift fork is bent or I might be thinking linkage/cable adjustment on the transmission if it has that. I'd be reading up on your transmission in the online manuals at the top of the forum section here. Download your manual and check it out further.
just my 2 cents

 

[MTDewX8]

i know bring an old thread back to life, but I am about to jump on a 2000 4 runner that seems to have a similar issue with first sometimes. I have not see the vehicle yet, but will be soon adn that is what htey told me it does.

if its the fork think how much does it cost to fix

 

[raydouble]

i know bring an old thread back to life, but I am about to jump on a 2000 4 runner that seems to have a similar issue with first sometimes. I have not see the vehicle yet, but will be soon adn that is what htey told me it does.

if its the fork think how much does it cost to fix

If the clutch hydraulics are working the way they should, I would look into checking the shift bushing.
This will get you in....
B amp M Short Shifter- Toyota Tacoma - September 2004 Toyota 4x4 Off-Road.com: Off-Road.com
and this is a great replacement. I believe the OEM one's are two piece and the marlin is a one piece.
Heavy Duty Shift Lever Ball Seats | Marlin Crawler, Inc.

You want the white one.
If you can sit with the truck running and the clutch depressed and move freely through the gears besides first. It's more than likely the bushing.

 

[KingSpence]

My issue covered every gear, it acted like the clutch was not depressed enough when sitting stopped trying to put it in gear. One suggestion I had was when the clutch was clutch was replaced, the flywheel may have been machined beyond spec.

 

[MTDewX8]

cool thanks for the links. good stuff for sure.

I am surprised though for the runner only had around 117k miles on it. I have not seen the vehicle yet for its traveling to town next weekend.

from the email traffic it only happens in first, but but ones driving or warmed up I guess its not an issue. but he also said he sometimes has to use his toe to pull the clutch out. thinking that is a different issue I previous explained. well either way I am getting a Mechanic to check it out on top of me looking at it and driving it. so we shall see.

 

[raydouble]

but he also said he sometimes has to use his toe to pull the clutch out. thinking that is a different issue I previous explained. well either way I am getting a Mechanic to check it out on top of me looking at it and driving it. so we shall see.

Probably want to have him bleed the clutch hydraulics then first.