Ah, yeah I see it now. I read your post too fast!
Wit's End Turbo Owners - Thread #2.....
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For posterity, Wit's End Turbo Wastegate Pip Blanket (Banana Hammock) made by PTP Turbo Blankets Part No. FPR035-209-01
Is it 209 or 200? I couldnt tell haha
Looks like 209 to my young eyes.
FYI on a few items.
1. PTP also makes a blanket that wraps around the Tial MVR44 Wastegate.
2. While you have it apart. Tial released new v-band clamps for the MVR44 that is way easier to install, and clamps better than the pressure style clamps that were in the early design.
alia176
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I drove it w/o the hood and an open pipe to the exhaust shop. The first drive was a hoot!
I've since completely welded up my own exhaust from the downpipe to the tailpipe.
alia176
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Are you talking about these things? That's what I'm using but I'll upgrade to a better design.
TiALSport Wastegate Flanges and Clamps-Multiple Options
TiALSport wastegates have always utilized in-house designed, engineered, and manufactured hardware for securing the units to the manifold and outlet. We do not use 'off-the-shelf' hardware, rather, we manufacture severe-duty v-clamps, flanges, and bolted flanges to precise material requirements...
tialsport-outlet.com
Yes.Are you talking about these things? That's what I'm using but I'll upgrade to a better design.
TiALSport Wastegate Flanges and Clamps-Multiple Options
TiALSport wastegates have always utilized in-house designed, engineered, and manufactured hardware for securing the units to the manifold and outlet. We do not use 'off-the-shelf' hardware, rather, we manufacture severe-duty v-clamps, flanges, and bolted flanges to precise material requirements...
The new clamps that I installed were this style. Much easier to install and clamped better in my install.
The old clamps that came with my MVR wastegatre was this high pressure style.
alia176
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OK, this helps. I have the "old" style and you're saying the new style works better. It's cool to know that you can easily change from one to the other. I'm assuming these are generic exhaust V band clamp, looks to be maye 2.5"?
Thank you.
alia176
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Gents, I can use some noodling on this issue, and it's not turbo related, per-se. It's more of a combustion issue that hasn't recurred since then.
Two weeks ago we were heading to Castle Valley lookout (around 7800') from Moab. We were climbing up the mountain, less than 50mph (in 3rd gear) when my pass noticed that her side was getting extra hot, and we both smelled sulphur. The guy behind me thinks he saw blue smoke just as we pulled over to investigate.
As soon as I pulled over, still in D, she stalled. She started back up normally and idled while cooling down. The idle seemed normal, no obvious miss, or hiccups. No vac leaks, no hissing, nothing obvious to us anyway.
One deduction I had was that an extra amount of unburned fuel made its way to the cat and got burned inside the cat, which could be why the pass floorboard was smoking hot (way hotter than usual). We felt the heat just by walking around that side of the engine bay also.
The question is why did I have an incomplete combustion and it hasn't happened since that day? The engine did try to stall two more times while we were in 4low half hour later but a bump on the gas pedal fixed her right up.
The following day, she started right up like normal and we drove home as usual.
We returned to UT last weekend, and there were zero issues. No extra floor board heat, no hiccups, nothing. She purrs along at 80mph cruise all day while drinking the fuel like a mofo.
If it was bad gas, it'd have been a tank full of it which I don't think was the case.
Fuel pump hiccup maybe? It's newer than the turbo, along with the fuel filter, so less than three years. In any case, these items wouldn't have fixed themselves.
No CEL. and just for giggles I tried to look up freeze frame data and got NADA. Unfortunately, Techstream doesn't like talking to my 80 so I used another PC based OBD-II software to look around.
Anyway, lots of words but I wanted to paint an accurate picture.
Two weeks ago we were heading to Castle Valley lookout (around 7800') from Moab. We were climbing up the mountain, less than 50mph (in 3rd gear) when my pass noticed that her side was getting extra hot, and we both smelled sulphur. The guy behind me thinks he saw blue smoke just as we pulled over to investigate.
As soon as I pulled over, still in D, she stalled. She started back up normally and idled while cooling down. The idle seemed normal, no obvious miss, or hiccups. No vac leaks, no hissing, nothing obvious to us anyway.
One deduction I had was that an extra amount of unburned fuel made its way to the cat and got burned inside the cat, which could be why the pass floorboard was smoking hot (way hotter than usual). We felt the heat just by walking around that side of the engine bay also.
The question is why did I have an incomplete combustion and it hasn't happened since that day? The engine did try to stall two more times while we were in 4low half hour later but a bump on the gas pedal fixed her right up.
The following day, she started right up like normal and we drove home as usual.
We returned to UT last weekend, and there were zero issues. No extra floor board heat, no hiccups, nothing. She purrs along at 80mph cruise all day while drinking the fuel like a mofo.
If it was bad gas, it'd have been a tank full of it which I don't think was the case.
Fuel pump hiccup maybe? It's newer than the turbo, along with the fuel filter, so less than three years. In any case, these items wouldn't have fixed themselves.
No CEL. and just for giggles I tried to look up freeze frame data and got NADA. Unfortunately, Techstream doesn't like talking to my 80 so I used another PC based OBD-II software to look around.
Anyway, lots of words but I wanted to paint an accurate picture.
My WE turbo kit was delivered without the waste gate, so I purchased one that came with the old style clamps just so I could install the turbo. After almost a year, Joey sent me the missing wastegate, which came with the updated clamps. Not sure if Joey swapped them, I just assumed they came from Tial with the new style clamps. Best to call Tial and ask.
Would a plugged catalytic converter exhibit these systems? Maybe you burned through whatever was plugging it, if that's even possible.
alia176
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That's an interesting thought and I'm not sure if that's the issue given that the cat is younger than the turbo and is a hi flow variety. It'd mean that the engine has been running too rich or lean for the past three years since the turbo install and caused it to fowl.
Lean conditions won't foul a cat, and realistically rich conditions won't foul a cat, it is usually burning oil that fouls a cat. Running lean or rich will melt the honeycomb in a cat but not foul it.
alia176
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Is it possible that you had an injector ground out and stick open, dumping fuel into the system and overloading the cat? Maybe due to the harness by the EGR?
alia176
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that's a very good point actually. I do have a brand new harness and it came with wrapped with heat tape around the EGR. My EGR is also bypassed using the resistor and the EGR modulator isn't allowed to route any exhaust gasses to the intake any longer. The injectors were clean and balanced many years ago so that is a possibility.
Thanks for your input.
Anyone running an orange fan clutch? I just upgraded my condenser to a Nissen 94184 but I want more airflow from the fan.
I currently have a WE/Landtank modded blue fan clutch, but I have no way to verify how much air it's pulling other than coolant temps. Coolant stays locked in at 194 degrees when warmed up and in stop/go traffic according to OBD data.
Or should I pull the blue and replace with a higher viscosity oil? My wife's 2020 vehicle sounds like a damn jet on startup, my fan never changes sound. Not saying it's bad, but I'm chasing slightly cooler vent temps.
Radiator, shroud, fan and clutch all have less than 10k miles with varying install dates.
Probably not related, but I have engine vibrations when doing engine runs to test A/C. Only between 1400-1600 RPM in park. When I shift to neutral it goes away.
I currently have a WE/Landtank modded blue fan clutch, but I have no way to verify how much air it's pulling other than coolant temps. Coolant stays locked in at 194 degrees when warmed up and in stop/go traffic according to OBD data.
Or should I pull the blue and replace with a higher viscosity oil? My wife's 2020 vehicle sounds like a damn jet on startup, my fan never changes sound. Not saying it's bad, but I'm chasing slightly cooler vent temps.
Radiator, shroud, fan and clutch all have less than 10k miles with varying install dates.
Probably not related, but I have engine vibrations when doing engine runs to test A/C. Only between 1400-1600 RPM in park. When I shift to neutral it goes away.
