Wit's End Turbo Owners - Thread #2..... (3 Viewers)

[OutlawMike]

Hello,

I am starting this thread intending it for discussion among those who did receive a turbo kit from Wit's End for the 1FZ-FE. It is intended for discussions related to the installation, maintenance, and upgrades of/to the kit. It is not intended for any comments or content related to Wit's End itself or to the owner of Wit's End. Please respect that intent, as the other Wit's End Turbo Owners thread was locked as it had morphed into discussions about the ongoing issues with Wit's End and the owner.

There is a thread that was started in the Bad Sellers section to discuss and track Wit's End problems:

Wits End Order Issues / Joey Romero

I'm creating a new post following a lengthy discussion in the turbo owners thread about various issues in communication and delivery of turbo kits. Personally, in spite of all of the challenges I would still prefer to have the turbo and I'm happy to wait. I love Joey's gear. However, given what...

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The original Wit's End Turbo Owners thread is linked below:

Wits End Turbo Owners

I think it might be time for a new thread to be created. "Wits End Turbo Owners" thread One thing to mention is I would also like to get with other Turbo owners and compare turbo differences and setups. I'm interested in learning everyones real world turbo mpg and any new tips or things to look...

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And the original Bolt On Turbo Kit design/build thread:

Bolt on turbo kit

*Edited 8/25/2018 This post has been taken over by @NLXTACY he has taken the reigns from my information gathering post to see if people would be interested in a kit to actually putting a kit into production. At this time it looks like there will be around 25 kits. There is no priority except...

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Thanks,

Mike

 

[OutlawMike]

First picture for this new thread of my oil catch can design, installed.

 

[Fosters]

Will be officially in possession of a kit next Thursday Fed Ex willing…

 

[Wompom]

Make sure your heads don’t get fried like mine!

 

[scottryana]

Plenty of turbos out there without a fried head, makes me think your head was not a result of the turbo.

 

[Wompom]

I’m pretty hesitant to put this back together in its original configuration. Maybe I’m wrong here - but it ran great the first unboosted 30k miles could also be my driving in a lot of mountains.

I’d still have done it the same way. Was a lot of fun til it wasn’t. Am I insane and should just rebuild an oem head and go back to town?
I don’t want to mess with the ecu and know that limits my mod ability to internals a bit.

 

[scottryana]

Yeah I am not sure what happened, I am arm chair quarter backing at this point since I did not see the head prior to install and only after, but there are dozens if not 100's of boosted 1FZ's whether it is SC or Turbo'd that haven't had problems so it makes me think there was something else going on. One of the major jobs of valve seats is to carry heat away from the valves, if your valves were not setup properly I could see you having an issue. Your after pictures it is very clear that the exhaust was sunk way too deep and intake was too shallow. I hate to see that you are back into your engine again after having just done it but I feel like as you put it back together make sure you are double and triple checking things.

 

[Wompom]

Yeah I am not sure what happened, I am arm chair quarter backing at this point since I did not see the head prior to install and only after, but there are dozens if not 100's of boosted 1FZ's whether it is SC or Turbo'd that haven't had problems so it makes me think there was something else going on. One of the major jobs of valve seats is to carry heat away from the valves, if your valves were not setup properly I could see you having an issue. Your after pictures it is very clear that the exhaust was sunk way too deep and intake was too shallow. I hate to see that you are back into your engine again after having just done it but I feel like as you put it back together make sure you are double and triple checking things.

As always, appreciate the input @scottryana . To be honest, I'm strongly debating a rebuild vs a 1HD-FTE swap. That diesel goodness would be a lot of fun. Especially with the amount of distance I drive this thing.
To keep it turbo related, I have a question for the group.
If you were in my position and you could make any modifications to the WE kit without needing an ECU/Tune setup, what would you do? Anything in the head? Intercooler, etc?
Trying to convince myself which way to go and currently at 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.

 

[scottryana]

As always, appreciate the input @scottryana . To be honest, I'm strongly debating a rebuild vs a 1HD-FTE swap. That diesel goodness would be a lot of fun. Especially with the amount of distance I drive this thing.
To keep it turbo related, I have a question for the group.
If you were in my position and you could make any modifications to the WE kit without needing an ECU/Tune setup, what would you do? Anything in the head? Intercooler, etc?
Trying to convince myself which way to go and currently at 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.

1HD-FTE is a sweet engine one I would have if I was a diesel guy 10:1 vs a 6BT.

 

[Greyota]

@OutlawMike Thanks for opening a new thread, I know I have questions from time to time. For example, a bit like @Wompom, I currently have my head off and dropped it at the machine shop yesterday. Nothing wrong with the head gasket, but I wanted to replace the valve stem seals and figured I'd just go all the way and pull the head and do the gasket for piece of mind.

My question for the group, and I think this topic came up in one of the other turbo threads - looking at my spark plugs, how do they look to you? Should I replace? Replace with the same ones, or do something different? This is after about 10,000 miles boosted, a total of 190,000 on the motor. They are the plugs that come with the WE kit.

 

[scottryana]

They look great except #2 which obviously has an oil seal leaking.

 

[Greyota]

They look great except #2 which obviously has an oil seal leaking.

Yeah, that one definitely had some oil on it. Think I can run them some more?

 

[scottryana]

Yeah, that one definitely had some oil on it. Think I can run them some more?

You could but if the head is off, just spend the $35 to throw in a new set.

 

[Greyota]

You could but if the head is off, just spend the $35 to throw in a new set.

Sounds good, appreciate the advice.

 

[uscmas412]

First picture for this new thread of my oil catch can design, installed.

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Where did you get the band clamps?

Mine really don’t seal that well, probably cut the silicon too short.

 

[uscmas412]

As always, appreciate the input @scottryana . To be honest, I'm strongly debating a rebuild vs a 1HD-FTE swap. That diesel goodness would be a lot of fun. Especially with the amount of distance I drive this thing.
To keep it turbo related, I have a question for the group.
If you were in my position and you could make any modifications to the WE kit without needing an ECU/Tune setup, what would you do? Anything in the head? Intercooler, etc?
Trying to convince myself which way to go and currently at 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.

Prior to my turbo install at 200k miles, I had a local shop rebuild the head and use aftermarket valves while ceramic coating the pistons. It lasted about 3k miles before poor compression. I then had a LC specialty shop re-do the head gasket...maybe got another 2k miles out of it before compression issues showed back up.

Now I've got a basically new 1FZ-FE after buying a new short block, head and internals. All stock. Taking it easy for the first 1k miles.

My opinion...keep it as stock as possible and be very picky with who does your work.

 

[OGBeno]

I’m pretty hesitant to put this back together in its original configuration. Maybe I’m wrong here - but it ran great the first unboosted 30k miles could also be my driving in a lot of mountains.

I’d still have done it the same way. Was a lot of fun til it wasn’t. Am I insane and should just rebuild an oem head and go back to town?
I don’t want to mess with the ecu and know that limits my mod ability to internals a bit.

Going diesel is not going to be much better.

Just saying.

 

[OGBeno]

Prior to my turbo install at 200k miles, I had a local shop rebuild the head and use aftermarket valves while ceramic coating the pistons. It lasted about 3k miles before poor compression. I then had a LC specialty shop re-do the head gasket...maybe got another 2k miles out of it before compression issues showed back up.

Now I've got a basically new 1FZ-FE after buying a new short block, head and internals. All stock. Taking it easy for the first 1k miles.

My opinion...keep it as stock as possible and be very picky with who does your work.

I‘d love to hear more about what happened.

Sounds like a literal super tanker of money that you spent in a lot of different ways that did not work out very well.

How are you chalking all of that up?

 

[scottryana]

Prior to my turbo install at 200k miles, I had a local shop rebuild the head and use aftermarket valves while ceramic coating the pistons. It lasted about 3k miles before poor compression. I then had a LC specialty shop re-do the head gasket...maybe got another 2k miles out of it before compression issues showed back up.

Now I've got a basically new 1FZ-FE after buying a new short block, head and internals. All stock. Taking it easy for the first 1k miles.

My opinion...keep it as stock as possible and be very picky with who does your work.

Yeah I am with Beno, what happened? I would be curious to know. When you say bad compression what was it?

 

[ChargedSHOTaco]

First picture for this new thread of my oil catch can design, installed.

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What catch cans are you using? I like the setup.