now this is interesting, something to tinker with. i have extra power window motor, cause why not. would be willing to try that ebay item and still have a backup if needed. nice find!
Window Rocket - who’s tried it?
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Nothing particularly oddball about the toolholders used for making any of the Window Rocket parts.
Both my HMC's are Cat40 and most tools under 1/4" I run in SK10 collet holders.
i'm replying to an old post, but as a new member, i am reviewing forumsn and contributing to the conversation best i can.And the Excel for those of you who like empirical data analysis:
so looking at this data, is the difference in the % of change due to the moulding and channels (or whatever they are called?)
driver side is not as good as passenger side with regards to improvement, and since the DS is probably used more often than passenger, is this attributed to the motors , moulding/channels (as both are being used more often and worn) or probaby a bit of both with a lean toward the motor. .
oh and the second DS is PS, small typo.
and final comment, not to be a jerk or anything, but isn't the difference supposed to be divided into the original 'before' # and not the 'after'?
either way, congrats on your fast windows. if you took the time take these measurements and share, my hat is off to you, sir.
mine are slow enough that i roll them up one at a time, with the motor on, and preferably not while driving
made it through the entire thread, my bad on the comment about testing the DC to DC step up regulator, i thought this product was a one per window setup. that was clarified a few pages ago!
I also saw a price adjustment was made, very appealing product. contgrats to the inventor @PIP on the success to date and future. nice going!
There are still some holding out, but overall seems like a high level of adoption.
I also saw a price adjustment was made, very appealing product. contgrats to the inventor @PIP on the success to date and future. nice going!
There are still some holding out, but overall seems like a high level of adoption.
I appreciate the kind words and recommendations for the product.
The non-ABS version is done. Should be live on the site tomorrow.
The non-ABS version fits all 80 series without the ABS computer. LHD, RHD, automatic and stickshift. Installation is easy, no more complicated than the ABS version.
The non-ABS version is $275 plus shipping.
Pictures and links tomorrow.
Thanks for all the support.
Especially thanks to 80 series owners in Colorado and Florida. There must be Window Rockets in the majority of 80 series in those states now.
The non-ABS version is done. Should be live on the site tomorrow.
The non-ABS version fits all 80 series without the ABS computer. LHD, RHD, automatic and stickshift. Installation is easy, no more complicated than the ABS version.
The non-ABS version is $275 plus shipping.
Pictures and links tomorrow.
Thanks for all the support.
Especially thanks to 80 series owners in Colorado and Florida. There must be Window Rockets in the majority of 80 series in those states now.
Window Rockets are now stocked for 80 series Land Cruisers without ABS brakes.
This includes All FJ80's and non- USA spec 80 series LHD and RHD. If your 80 series does not have an ABS computer, I've got you covered!
The new no-ABS mount components are CNC machined from premium 6061 aluminum and anodized type 2 black to ensure they never corrode.
This includes All FJ80's and non- USA spec 80 series LHD and RHD. If your 80 series does not have an ABS computer, I've got you covered!
The new no-ABS mount components are CNC machined from premium 6061 aluminum and anodized type 2 black to ensure they never corrode.
Ordered! I've been watching this thread for a while, thanks for getting the RHD non-ABS stuff across the finish line!
Ordered! Thanks for helping out us non-ABS/91-92 guys- super stoked to get this in with some new runs and mouldings. Been following for months now- I'll report back when I get back in the state and can throw it all in!
@PIP - So does the non-abs version have 2 mounting points? If so, is there any flex or movement considering the mass is at the end.
I like the way you think! Good question!
You are correct, it is mounting with two points.
Initially, I avoided designing the mount like this. I considered 2 point mounting inferior to 3 points, which it generally is. Which is why I went down the path I did initially- Attempting to duplicate Toyota's ABS mounts for the no-ABS cruisers. Eventually, I saw this as a bad direction to take the product as it's terribly difficult to install in some of the cruisers and there are so many variations in the wiring layout in FJ80's.
So I took a second look at utilizing the two relay panel studs to mount the Window Rocket.
After completely removing the steel relay panel mounting bracket and analyzing it I came to the conclusion that it's designed pretty well and has some "flex" built into it to basically self align with the relay panel and allow all the wiring to be packed around it. It's "nested" in there, if you will. The 6mm steel studs that mount the relay block, which the no-ABS window rocket fixes to, These studs are part of a formed sheetmetal mount bolted to the cab structure.
Mounting the window rocket to it as I did, makes it a pretty rigid assembly. It makes it one with the relay panel and any flex happens in the steel mount behind the relay panel. When this is all assembled in this tight area in the vehicle, the Window rocket is "nested" pretty well in it's little space and can't really move.
I feel the 2 point mounting is sufficient for the 1.6 lb Window Rocket. I gave a lot of consideration to the size of the standoffs, not to their strength necessarily, but to the surface area where they tighten against the plastic relay panel as to distribute any shock loads from a bouncing vehicle without cracking the plastic.
While I do feel I had to make compromises in the course of iterating the no-ABS mounts, I feel the final design is a great result even if it does not use a 3rd mounting point.
Ordered mine on the 1st and received in time for that weekend, unfortunately I fell ill and didn't get to it. Installed this past weekend and had a few issues (none pertaining to fitment or quality). My truck had an aftermarket alarm installed previously and was a hack job around that area. I had to move some unneeded components and my old body was not enjoying the contortionist act of getting under the dash for any length of time. Thought twice about just removing the driver's seat but decided to suck it up.
Like others have said, the windows work considerably well and I do not think I will have any "I hope the window goes back up" incidents this winter. PIP provided fast shipping, good packaging, and what looks to be quality workmanship. Kudos @PIP.
I know there has been discussion about the price point and I too went back and forth about the cost. There are two things that put it in perspective for me. First, PIP has made a limited demand product for a comparatively small (but dedicated) community and I can appreciate the time and effort (previous posts document multiple R&D session) involved. Second, I was purchasing the supplies to do an oil change (includes the air and cabin filter) on my wife's car and I spent just over $100 for a service that I can predict will be required at least four times each year.
To note, the window rocket has been living rent free in my mind since the rainy season came and it was at that point that I decided that this product, if delivers as advertised, would provide a quality of life I currently did not have with the 80.
Please note: I have no affiliation with PIP other than purchasing his product.
Now that I have good window speed, I need to deal with my passenger rear window not working. That will inevitably be a spring project though.
Like others have said, the windows work considerably well and I do not think I will have any "I hope the window goes back up" incidents this winter. PIP provided fast shipping, good packaging, and what looks to be quality workmanship. Kudos @PIP.
I know there has been discussion about the price point and I too went back and forth about the cost. There are two things that put it in perspective for me. First, PIP has made a limited demand product for a comparatively small (but dedicated) community and I can appreciate the time and effort (previous posts document multiple R&D session) involved. Second, I was purchasing the supplies to do an oil change (includes the air and cabin filter) on my wife's car and I spent just over $100 for a service that I can predict will be required at least four times each year.
To note, the window rocket has been living rent free in my mind since the rainy season came and it was at that point that I decided that this product, if delivers as advertised, would provide a quality of life I currently did not have with the 80.
Please note: I have no affiliation with PIP other than purchasing his product.
Now that I have good window speed, I need to deal with my passenger rear window not working. That will inevitably be a spring project though.
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This is a great call out. It’s a long run for a short slide.
Do you remember sunroofs with hand cranks? More spooky than anything else you'll see this Halloween.
. Winter's come early here bringing slow window speeds in drive-throughs. I'll be pulling the trigger once my patience wears thin in enough to offset the CAD-->USD conversion rate lol.
Just installed one for a friend. He had me do new front regulator/motor assemblies and I recommended the window rocket. Mine has been so good, I figured he needed one too. Made a HUGE difference in his vehicle that has aged window runs and belt moulding seals.
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Got mine super fast and carefully packed! Hoping to get it in this week work schedule permitting. I'm doing window runs and outer belt mouldings simultaneously. I wrestled with the first channel run using the "window-in and just lube it" method and it took infinitely longer than just pulling the door card and glass. So I burned a lot of time fiddling with the run that way- maybe I'm missing something but I should have just pulled the card and glass to begin with. Anyways, between new runs, new outer mouldings, (I need new inners as well, but those will have to wait a bit...I'm already in pretty deep between the Window Rocket, Amazon channels, and outer mouldings) and the WR- I can't wait to be able to roll up windows like a regular person and not have to do the "Hey can you pinch the top of that and pull while I roll it up" talk with passengers!
Also- I'm stealing this saying! Nailed it. It's pricey, but for a permanent fix (I've done window regulators once before about 9 years ago-for Toyota OEM prices) and the cost of the WR is far cheaper and if it fixes the problem- it saves a lot of money in the lifetime of the vehicle. It's definitely a long run for a short slide for @PIP and I wanted to support someone taking the time to fix a problem that we pretty much all have to deal with that until now, nobody (to my knowledge) has stepped up and come up with a permanent solution for. Time will tell, but this seems like a great fix with a well thought out product. I appreciate the lengths he went to to make it- I want him to be rewarded for his efforts!
https://youtube.com/shorts/gGVGzr53k6o?si=_yk4Oy5cGUKp_1Ae
@PIP you're a legend! Thank you for this!
@PIP you're a legend! Thank you for this!