I have a set of their channel lock type pliers and they feel super high quality. That said, they're damn expensive.
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I have a set of their channel lock type pliers and they feel super high quality. That said, they're damn expensive.
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Dual fuel heat pump (electric) and gas
I picked up this set a while back...only used them once but the seem nice and are supposedly USA made. I think Williams is a snap on industrial brand??
Williams 23092 2-Piece Retaining Ring Pliers Set - Snap Ring Pliers - Amazon.com
EDIT...I paid 16.00 at the time, but seemed like a super deal. I troll Amazon for their pricing algorithm mistakes
If you've got natural gas your set.
I had something like this (with the blower) in my old garage. It was smaller than yours is now but could run you out of there.
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With the size of your garage I might try one of those box shaped heaters that hang on the ceiling in the corner. Lots of options on Craigslist and most of the stores will be or have already put that stuff on sale this time of year.
I've got the "blue flame" propane version of that wall heater now. I'm ready to ditch it and get another one of the brick/infrared style. They work.
ps. Rafael @Roxx is the man. He spent a long time on the phone giving me some great advice on getting our new heat pump a couple weeks ago.
I believe Johnny was looking for emergency backup for his house, not heating the garage.
Why are you planning to get rid of your blue flame heater? I'm looking for a more permanent solution for my shop, errrr, garage.
Another solute to Rafael .... heck of a guy.
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Johnny, We lost power for about 10 hours over the weekend. Temps were 16* - 32* outside. We have an old set of vent-free gas logs (no blower) in our fireplace. We never use them unless we lose power. They kept the whole house at 68* on the lowest setting. Natural gas is not available at our house so we have a 57 gallon (200 lb) tank that we have topped off every two or three years as needed.
I know you have access to natural gas but if you want a quick, easy and cheap DIY solution, find some used vent free gas logs on Craigslist and get yourself a couple of 24 gallon (100 lb) propane tanks from Costco and fill them up. That should be enough emergency gas to last you a couple of weeks in the coldest of weather. You can even plumb in a valve to switch from one tank to the other when one goes dry.
As a side note, my detached garage/shop is heated all winter 24/7 with one of those propane wall heaters that Sean linked. The garage has its own 57 gallon tank. I keep the garage at around 55* for Zeke with that wall heater on as low as it will go. I can usually go all winter on 3/4 of a tank.
In theory you could purchase one of those propane wall heaters for your garage and use your tanks in there for comfy wrenching most of the time and then drag one over to the house and hook it to your gas logs to heat the house in an emergency. You'd just have to be diligent about keeping a full tank on hand for emergency use.
I guess my point in all of this is that using the larger movable propane tanks and propane heaters offer some flexibility and don't have to be hard plumbed. You fill them as needed. A full 100 lb tank weighs about 150 lbs. You're a big guy though. You should be able to move them around with no problem or just put them on a hand truck and roll them.
I know you have access to natural gas but if you want a quick, easy and cheap DIY solution, find some used vent free gas logs on Craigslist and get yourself a couple of 24 gallon (100 lb) propane tanks from Costco and fill them up. That should be enough emergency gas to last you a couple of weeks in the coldest of weather. You can even plumb in a valve to switch from one tank to the other when one goes dry.
As a side note, my detached garage/shop is heated all winter 24/7 with one of those propane wall heaters that Sean linked. The garage has its own 57 gallon tank. I keep the garage at around 55* for Zeke with that wall heater on as low as it will go. I can usually go all winter on 3/4 of a tank.
In theory you could purchase one of those propane wall heaters for your garage and use your tanks in there for comfy wrenching most of the time and then drag one over to the house and hook it to your gas logs to heat the house in an emergency. You'd just have to be diligent about keeping a full tank on hand for emergency use.
I guess my point in all of this is that using the larger movable propane tanks and propane heaters offer some flexibility and don't have to be hard plumbed. You fill them as needed. A full 100 lb tank weighs about 150 lbs. You're a big guy though. You should be able to move them around with no problem or just put them on a hand truck and roll them.
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Yep, my garage heater is also a backup. Mine's propane so I could just carry it inside if I need to. Natural gas could work the same but the hookup would be a little more difficult so the logs would be a great option. If I had natural gas I'd only have propane around for camping.
I had one of the ventless heaters with the bricks. It just seemed to put out a lot more heat than the blue flame version. It may be that my new one is a little smaller and I need more BTUs but the heat off of those bricks when you stand in front of the old one would cook you.
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So you guys like heaters similar to this? Can't believe I didn't think of this before, I definitely have propane.
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I've got a natural gas line in my garage that I'll use with a hanging vented heater to get some serious BTUs up in there:
Mr. Heater 80000 BTU Natural Gas Suspended Heater
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I've got a natural gas line in my garage that I'll use with a hanging vented heater to get some serious BTUs up in there:
Mr. Heater 80000 BTU Natural Gas Suspended Heater
80000 for your garage? Careful man .... that equates to 6.7 tons. I believe the propane heater I used for my old shop was 90000 which was 30x60 metal with 12 foot ceilings and it got warm in a hurry.
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It was just intended to be an example. Haven't spec'd anything yet for the space.
Nope, I'd get the brick one but the natural gas one if I could so I didn't have to deal with the tanks. I need a 100 pounder so I don't have to keep refiling the grill tanks as often. (but they're harder to transport since they have to stay vertical) The blower makes a difference too.
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I'm thinking I'd like to oversize on purpose since not as insulated and it's common to open the door and/or need to heat it up semi quickly so you can get out there and work. Different sizing than maintaining a temperature. You can always turn it down.
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I'm thinking I'd like to oversize on purpose since not as insulated and it's common to open the door and/or need to heat it up semi quickly so you can get out there and work. Different sizing than maintaining a temperature. You can always turn it down.
No s***, just yesterday I saw somebody on tv cook a whole hog IN THEIR LIVING ROOM with a propane blast heater. They elevated a giant metal box with the pig under an insulated tenting cover open on one end and just let it blast away. I'm thinking the 12+ metal spoons they shoved in the pig like flags must have been to conduct heat deep inside.
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@JohnVee you should try out newer style semi-automatic wire strippers like this. I've got these and it makes both house as well as truck wiring so much less frustrating:
Klein Tools 11063W 8-22 AWG Katapult Wire Stripper - - Amazon.com
Klein Tools 11063W 8-22 AWG Katapult Wire Stripper - - Amazon.com
too funny - I almost ordered that same hydraulic crimper on Thursday - but opted for the hammer type and got it on Saturday....