Preparing for Water Fording

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So, I've been looking at my snorkel and planning the installation. The template sucks, but I can figure it out.

I'm surprised, though, that the snorkel needs to be cut thru the apron almost exactly where the carb cooling fan output tube rests.

This means I will need to either remove the carb cooling fan entirely, or modify it to move the output tube out of the way.

Is this conflict normal, or is my snorkel different?

This picture shows the conflict... I've drawn a circle where I need to cut the snorkel through... You can see the carb cooling fan output tube just inside the apron.

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If you are planning on using a new air filter box then install it on the passenger side with no restrictions nor conflicts with other components. Just a thought.
 
We love pictures ... Of ALMOST anything lol

Hey Johnny I shared the very same thoughts when I lived in NY about 40 years ago, it must be a NY thing, maybe the air quality? That "ALMOST Anything" worries me about you!:hillbilly:
 
Can't blame you there bro, but you still need buoyancy, minus all the X rated graphics!

Oh, I wear waders and eat a lotta beans!!

We love pictures ... Of ALMOST anything lol

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I sure see a lot of water there :lol:

almost
 
I sure see a lot of water there :lol:

almost

I'll be your whipping post of doubt ;)

While I've stated that I've hardly gotten 44's rims wet, thus far, I want to be ready when the big one hits Calif; when the polar caps melt; when the sun dies; etc. o_O

You do realize that the ancient seas of the Great Basin supported very unique fish-shaped reptiles, at very high elevations - right?

The Berlin-Ichthyosaur State Park is in an area where the elevation ranges from 6840-7880' - so, 44 will be ready when the water level gets back up to 7000'!!

Berlin-Ichthyosaur State Park <-- here's a link and here's the skinny...

Berlin-Ichthyosaur State Park is nestled at 7,000 feet on the western slope of central Nevada’s Shoshone mountain range.

Ichthyosaurs (ICK-thee-o-sors) were prehistoric marine reptiles that differed dramatically from all other reptiles. Ranging in size from about two to over fifty feet in length, ichthyosaurs are the most highly specialized reptile ever to have lived on earth.

Very fish-like in appearance and locomotion, they bore their young alive and had amazingly large eyes in relation to the rest of the body.

Like all reptiles, ichthyosaur was air breathing and resembles modern day cetaceans (whales and dolphins to which the ichthyosaur is not related) in some characteristics. Ichthyosaurs lived at about the same time as the dinosaurs, Ichthyosaur fossils are found on all continents except Antarctica.

There is no evidence linking the ichthyosaur to any other reptile, and their widespread existence and apparent success makes their extinction all the more mysterious.

Of all the ichthyosaurs discovered, the ones at Berlin-Ichthyosaur State Park, dubbed Shonisaurus popularisafter the Shoshone mountain range where they are found, are the largest specimens known with most being about fifty feet long.
So, I'm going to install a very long snorkel... but, it's real intent is to bring cool, clean air to my carb. The apocalypse is simply secondary... :cool:

I would be remiss if I didn't mention that I've seen the results of what a mere couple of inches of rain can do out there and it's impressive, to say the least!! But, I would never want to be out there in a rainstorm!!
 
I would just vent your axles and gear boxes to the air filter housing. That way the engine air filter keeps the dirt out of the vent hose. Keep in mind too that factory cruiser drum brakes are terrible when wet, so I hope you at least have discs up front. Snorkels just look like they belong on 40s. So even if you don't use it much, it will look cool anyway. But when you need it, you will be glad to have it. 40s are awesome water crossers, they don't float easily.
 
I would just vent your axles and gear boxes to the air filter housing. That way the engine air filter keeps the dirt out of the vent hose. Keep in mind too that factory cruiser drum brakes are terrible when wet, so I hope you at least have discs up front. Snorkels just look like they belong on 40s. So even if you don't use it much, it will look cool anyway. But when you need it, you will be glad to have it. 40s are awesome water crossers, they don't float easily.

Yep, discs up front. Good idea about venting to engine air filter.

Look cool and draw in cool air!
 
I have a comment/question from an earlier post, on this thread, about a worry of heating air entering the carb from snorkel air with tubes passing near the manifold. In cooler to cold weather, my 73 air filter housing (as with other years) closes off the front air horn that takes cool air from the front and redirects it down above the manifold so it pulls warmer air from above the manifold. I forgot to slide it back open this year and left it on the cold weather setting this summer for a bit. It gets above 100 degrees here and I really didn't notice much of a difference in the F's performance when I opened it back up to draw cooler air from the front. These aren't high performance engines. I can't believe that the added temp would be cause to overly worry about an air box and tubes running near the manifold when installing a snorkel.
 
I have a comment/question from an earlier post, on this thread, about a worry of heating air entering the carb from snorkel air with tubes passing near the manifold. In cooler to cold weather, my 73 air filter housing (as with other years) closes off the front air horn that takes cool air from the front and redirects it down above the manifold so it pulls warmer air from above the manifold. I forgot to slide it back open this year and left it on the cold weather setting this summer for a bit. It gets above 100 degrees here and I really didn't notice much of a difference in the F's performance when I opened it back up to draw cooler air from the front. These aren't high performance engines. I can't believe that the added temp would be cause to overly worry about an air box and tubes running near the manifold when installing a snorkel.

I went back and looked... You must be referring to Mike's (@78fj40mg) response, in post9. I'll let Mike explain his position.

I'm personally not concerned with the snorkel air being heated on the way to the carb. In 44, it's got to be better than what is drawn in thru the air horn, to the driver's side of the radiator. Even though my headers are consistently running 450* in the summer, I expect the snorkel air to flow thru quite quickly and reach the carb plenty cool.

Alex (@SouthBostonFJ40) is preparing to remove his snorkel because it prevents him folding his windshield. But, his filter is the chrome(?) cylinder shown in Mike's post#9. You can see what Alex says about it in his post#24.
 
THIS is the snorkel kit I bought... I may have posted this link before.

Anyway, I was very satisfied with the price and I am very satisfied with the quality of parts and the completeness of the kit!

The only negative reviews were the sad template the kit includes... Sad is not a good adjective ... The included template doesn't match the hole pattern of the snorkel at all. It may match one of their snorkels, but this isn't the one.

I worked out the pattern and transferred it to 44, then cut the snorkel hole, using a 3.25" hole saw and drilled three 5/16" holes. Good thing I had a tape measure... There were no instructions...,which was actually better than the template!!

Here are a couple of pictures, before I remove it to paint the holes and patch that disgusting antenna hole.


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It looks great Danny! How are you planning to fill the antenna hole?


I'm open to suggestions Mike.

The 'damage' (ragged edge) is inside (like a .50 cal ... my plan is to cut clean it up on the outside (I'm not tearing 44 apart to try to get to the inside). Then cut a quarter sized piece and weld it in place, using my trusty HF flux capacitor 90 amp welder, AFTER disconnecting my battery.

Then grind it, sand it, prime it, paint it, sand it, paint it, ...
 
I like the snorkel!

Was that luck that you mounted the hi - lift jack on the passenger side or prophetic foresight in anticipation of the snorkel?

Oh, I planned that out over a period of several years... :cool:

I actually planned to mount a snorkel eventually... but, I also didn't want the hi-lift on the drivers side, I feel like it's actually more 'out of the way' on the passenger side... maybe its because it's kind of 'out of sight, out of mind'. :rolleyes:
 
BTW in order to mount the snorkel, I had to remove my carb cooling fan... it was in the way.

I'm planning to modify the fan and remount it...

But, I'm curious... does anyone have any thoughts on placing a Y (under the hood), with a smaller branch blowing cool 'snorkel' air on the carb?

Just a thought... my headers run 450* and it gets mucho calore under the hood on a hot summer day...
 
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