thecrazygreek
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Heres a pic of the vapir3 installed...
FJ40 Air Conditioning choices Vintage Air or CCOT (2 Viewers)
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I second this. I will be pulling the trigger on this after the 1st of the year.
The vent assembly can be removed with screws, so I'm guessing they just order a manifold from vintage air that allows for installing air ducts instead in place of the front vent piece/bulk vent assembly. The Vintage Air chevy nova kit uses such a manifold instead of the bulk vent assembly the 40 kit has.
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Hi guys, been looking at this as well. After following up on the links in this thread as well as other sources I believe these are the options for AC/heater combinations which replace the original heater in 2019 (some products mentioned before have been discontinued - correct me if I am wrong or incomplete):
- No AC: 0 USD. Retrofit AC's are overrated (airflow not ideal, noisy, expensive)
- Vintage Air Gen IV: 1480 USD (+ 205 for high perf blower), good reviews, uses up some glove box space, design less "retro" with round vents, high perf blower mounted at 90 deg angle - so less visible, noisy fan
- Restomod Vapir III: 950 USD, uses up glove box and looks a bit bulky in the passenger footwell, seems to blow mainly on passenger, unless holes are drilled in dash with extra vents. Not clear if available RHD
- TPI 4x4: 1449 USD, claims to be "improved vintage air" (?) looks looks like vintage air gen IV, not clear if available RHD
- Nostalgic AC: 1092 USD, nice "retro" square vent design, quite wide vents mounted centrally under dash but blowing mainly to passenger, does not use glove box, available for RHD
- Old Air Products: approx 1200 USD (2100 system) no specific Toyota kit available, so not sure which one is most applicable. Nice retro design with central ventilation unit in the location of the existing heater and ducting to loose vents, which can be installed in the bottom dash pad if you have one (as shown in this thread). Interestingly they sell a "mock up case" @ 72.50 USD to see how it fits before actually buying the thing. They also give the option how you want to mount your controls (in dash or not), if you want square or round vents and the size of condensor. Not sure if it will fit in a RHD
- Classic Auto Air: no specific Toyota kit available, so not sure which one is applicable
All systems: may need new higher power radiator fan and alternator
I have been focusing a bit on RHD options as well as something that will cool the kids/dogs in the back (having a troopy) ... suggestions welcome!
- No AC: 0 USD. Retrofit AC's are overrated (airflow not ideal, noisy, expensive)
- Vintage Air Gen IV: 1480 USD (+ 205 for high perf blower), good reviews, uses up some glove box space, design less "retro" with round vents, high perf blower mounted at 90 deg angle - so less visible, noisy fan
- Restomod Vapir III: 950 USD, uses up glove box and looks a bit bulky in the passenger footwell, seems to blow mainly on passenger, unless holes are drilled in dash with extra vents. Not clear if available RHD
- TPI 4x4: 1449 USD, claims to be "improved vintage air" (?) looks looks like vintage air gen IV, not clear if available RHD
- Nostalgic AC: 1092 USD, nice "retro" square vent design, quite wide vents mounted centrally under dash but blowing mainly to passenger, does not use glove box, available for RHD
- Old Air Products: approx 1200 USD (2100 system) no specific Toyota kit available, so not sure which one is most applicable. Nice retro design with central ventilation unit in the location of the existing heater and ducting to loose vents, which can be installed in the bottom dash pad if you have one (as shown in this thread). Interestingly they sell a "mock up case" @ 72.50 USD to see how it fits before actually buying the thing. They also give the option how you want to mount your controls (in dash or not), if you want square or round vents and the size of condensor. Not sure if it will fit in a RHD
- Classic Auto Air: no specific Toyota kit available, so not sure which one is applicable
All systems: may need new higher power radiator fan and alternator
I have been focusing a bit on RHD options as well as something that will cool the kids/dogs in the back (having a troopy) ... suggestions welcome!
I went with Old Air Products IP-3100- Inside Package A/C, Heat and Defrost System Lower Fittings, Electronic. Bought that and the hose kit. Was $666 shipped with a military discount.
Hi Cult45, do you have any pictures on how you did this? I am interested because a) I am not too happy with the bulky under dash mountings and b) I am looking for some rear facing vents for rear passengers (dogs/kids) in the rear of my HJ47 troopy: I have forward facing seats there as well, which will be mounted in such a way that passengers can exit through the rear ambulance doors.
With regards to insulation: how much m2 of dynamat did you use to do your vehicle (long wheel base FJ45?) and where did you use it - I imagine obviously behind door cards and under floor mats/front seats, but how far to the rear and up the firewall did you go? Thx
I couldn't see what the difference was between the 3 models (1100, 2100 and 3100). Can you explain?
One is an inside kit without a compressor. Perfect for those with a conversion. 3100 was my choice because I did a 5.7 Vortec swap and read a nice write up on here with the kit used. Looked really clean.
For rear passengers in a troopy u could mount a second ac unit using a generic under dash kit under the front seat aiming rearward. They are cheap and small.
Universal Under dash 3 Speed 12v Air Conditioning Evaporator Cool Only Unit | eBay
This is a Premium Quality Universal under dash A/C evaporator Cool Unit. High quality thermostat and rotative 3 speed blower switch.
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anyone know how to determine the size of compressor and condensor if you add a unit like this to the front unit (I am assuming that a bigger compressor and condensor are needed)? I just a mechanical engineer - electrics confuse meFor rear passengers in a troopy u could mount a second ac unit using a generic under dash kit under the front seat aiming rearward. They are cheap and small.
Universal Under dash 3 Speed 12v Air Conditioning Evaporator Cool Only Unit | eBay
This is a Premium Quality Universal under dash A/C evaporator Cool Unit. High quality thermostat and rotative 3 speed blower switch.www.ebay.com
Also: what is a good size in terms of CFM? I like that this example is small, but don't want to end up with complaints from the back bench ...
anyone know how to determine the size of compressor and condensor if you add a unit like this to the front unit (I am assuming that a bigger compressor and condensor are needed)? I just a mechanical engineer - electrics confuse me
I would just call old air on Monday. They are super nice and very knowledgeable.
@letterman52 Do you have any pics of your install?
Still in the box. Just copying the linked thread for old air above.
@thecrazygreek Did you order/install a Vapir III? And if so, do you have any pics of the install?
thecrazygreek
A.K.A. TheCraftyGreek
Think I found a evap/blower unit that could be used in the rear of a fj40 to keep rear occupants cool...
www.southernrods.com
Mini Kooler AC ONLY
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blossett
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Bit the bullet and drilled my A/C vent holes
When my time comes I will be asking for pointers on replicating your AC install. Very nice
GA Architect
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I typically roll with my windows down, but AC is very nice to have when needed.......like yesterday on my way home. Caught in an Electrified Georgia Toad Stomper, rolled the windows up, turned on the AC, and blasted that cold air in my rig!!!!
