Delancy's NEW 76 PIGGY ??? (2 Viewers)

[tucker74]

Here's my split case I'm installing, all those gears are sitting on the piece I'm talking about and have to be installed like this to put on your transmission.



The only extra work for Robbie would be swapping the front input bearing and gears into the new case 1/2 (10-20min).

Tucker

 

[J Mack]

Oh man - can you source a 10/'82-4/'86 front case half shell? That just sucks donkey balls if you can't use it :-(

Tucker

Can you post a picture of what the difference's are between the one he needs and the one he has?

I may have the correct 34 mm front case half I will give him if it will work.

 

[Delancy]

Tucker,

Thank you.

Have been using the above to discuss amongst the advisory committee and, based on, think we've come up with a solution.

The case I have is short the oiler cup and bearing support which I've been told is part of the front half, as you've stated.

So, considering everything on the case I have is new, It should be a matter of only swapping the front half or swapping all for continuity, provided a 34mm case with the correct front could be sourced.

Not only has the correct case been found (from '85 BJ70 with 34mm shaft, currently mated to an H55) but Alberto is pulling this weekend....and doesn't want anything for it.

Thank you, Alberto.

So, now the most difficult decision is figuring out how to express my appreciation for Alberto's generosity....

Along with my appreciation for Onur's, Georg's, Robbie's and Kurt's involvement on this matter.

It takes a village, right?

Also, spoke to Robbie yesterday about a concern expressed over a 12 gram variation in piston weights discovered during a balancing effort.

They claimed it's too much to take out of the heaviest piston, based on the percentage or gross piston weight.

[Listen. I'm only relaying. I realize it ain't an Indy car, but I don't know enough beyond what the pros say to be a concern]

So, Onur's sending his personal stash to check weights and pick the closest (6) to start from.









Thank you, Onur.

 

[OGBeno]

So the way split cases work all of the gears, bearings and races are more or less separate from the case. If you sourced the front 1/2 of the case, Robbie can swap in all your rebuilt goodies easily and still use the nice powder coated rear case half/output housing/PTO cover. You'd only be out the case plate, and possibly two seals (front output and selector) if they can't be removed w/o buggering. You need the years I mentioned to keep your 34mm idler that matches your gears and rebuilt bits

Tucker

I think this is what he is going to do....

Or at least what I am advising him doing.

 

[Delancy]

I may have the correct 34 mm front case half I will give him if it will work.

Thanks for the offer, J Mack.

Hopefully someone can post, if I can't find, because I'd like to understand how one differs from the other.

 

[tucker74]

You see the recess and clear plastic spout protruding in this pic, oil is slung up off the input shaft when spinning and this "catches" it and "squirts" it out on the 5th gear.



Hope that's clear, best pic I have ...

Tucker

 

[Delancy]

Have the actual plastic piece (slinger), regardless if the front of the wrong case has a spot for or not, but how does it support the bearing differently?

 

[PabloCruise]

To avoid further jacking threadchaser's technically documented thread with my ignorance....

Yes....

For sale: Early rebuilt split case, expertly powder coated, will throw in a 4 speed, to boot.

Local pick up in Boulder, only. No shipping, period. $1k cash.

Wow, that is a major disappointment!

Oh man - can you source a 10/'82-4/'86 front case half shell? That just sucks donkey balls if you can't use it :-(

Tucker

That is a good idea! Will it work?

 

[Delancy]

Alberto's idea.... since the 4 speed split case is powder coated and we all know it's gotta match.

"This is what I would do. Bead blast both my case halves, swap all your internals to this case, use the good 34mm split case for your H55, put together a 4-spd split case and sell it."

Also learned he doesn't own an electric impact.

 

[PabloCruise]

I think this is what he is going to do....

Or at least what I am advising him doing.

Good, sounds like a good plan.

You see the recess and clear plastic spout protruding in this pic, oil is slung up off the input shaft when spinning and this "catches" it and "squirts" it out on the 5th gear.



Hope that's clear, best pic I have ...

Tucker

Very nice illustration!

Have the actual plastic piece (slinger), regardless if the front of the wrong case has a spot for or not, but how does it support the bearing differently?

Not for certain but I think the support differs so that gear lube can be supplied to the squirter. Correct me if I am wrong!

 

[PabloCruise]

I've not spoken to Ige about any of this, so it's up for grabs, but has to be picked up.

Gracias. I should know soon if I can go to the RS club meeting this Wednesday. If yes, I'll see if Robbie and I can do a swap.

 

[PabloCruise]

Chris, just to confirm, the plan is to put a 5 speed in front of the t-case, yes? Otherwise you don't care about provisions for a 5th gear squirter.

Do you have the H55 yet? I dream of getting one of these and putting in my Pig...

 

[tucker74]

Have the actual plastic piece (slinger), regardless if the front of the wrong case has a spot for or not, but how does it support the bearing differently?

Not sure what you are referring to, the bearing seats in that recess in the case against the seal? This is the same for both, I've heard the input gear is different for the early but you should be able to use it (will want to so you can use all those bearings you replaced).

Tucker

 

[Delancy]

Chris, just to confirm, the plan is to put a 5 speed in front of the t-case, yes?

Yes.

Otherwise you don't care about provisions for a 5th gear squirter.

I can't answer that.....

Do you have the H55 yet?

Yes.



Have had it and the rebuilt, powder coated TC in question for some time... (It was already PCd. Not my doing)

Not sure what you are referring to, the bearing seats in that recess in the case against the seal?

Nor am I. A simple regurgitation of other's concerns.

 

[Delancy]

Found an envelope for the tire check!!

 

[tucker74]

I can't answer that.....

Correct

Nor am I. A simple regurgitation of other's concerns.

Looks like it's shaped different to allow for the oiler provision, I just installed mine to the same H55 so I know the later housing will work anyway. Sounds like you're getting the whole case, you can just use later both halves with your gears if there is a difference.

Tucker

 

[Delancy]

Before I forget.

A customer showed in a one ton GMC earlier and was a little surprised when I asked him to step out of the vehicle...



Flat rail attachment, too!!

 

[tucker74]

Found an envelope for the tire check!!

You're gonna love that sucker, I've got the Milwaukee version and use it constantly. I don't think I've fired up my compressor once on this transmission swap

Tucker

 

[Delancy]

I've been a Dewalt fan since the end of Black & Decker, although the quality has deteriorated in the last ten years.

In the "hay day", had screwguns, cutoff saws, impacts, drills, you name it, all of which were rebuild-able, a common occurrence when pulling off (Dewalt) generators and careless employees.

Anymore, it's cheaper to replace, but I've had a personal corded impact for 8 or 9 years and it's still kicking. Have a 24V cordless that is still new, since I rarely opt to use over the corded.

Anyhow, that's Alberto's in the pic for efforts on the case since he thinks he's not taking money for it.

 

[AlbertoSD]

Anyhow, that's Alberto's in the pic for efforts on the case since he thinks he's not taking money for it.

Not needed, my good friend, for real. I am happy that this will get you back on track. I want to see this 55 on the road as much as you do!

To the crowd, any advice taking the Tcase off the tranny while the whole assembly is married (H55 + Tcase) and on the floor.

I borrowed an electric impact to get the two staked nuts out (the one from the H55 output shaft and the one for the rear Tcase output flange) so I can separate the two halves and pull all the cluster gears. Am I missing anything?

Thanks.