Would someone who has made the switch describe the difference between these two pads?
80 vs 100 brake pads
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I found this thread in the search, which seems to be very on topic for you. 80 or 100 brake pads? Some highly esteemed members saying they use 100 series pads (front only). Several other members calling it hype, or saying they get a false lip (which may make you think you brakes are still in new condition even when they are worn.)
The 100 Series pads have ~17% more surface area and the friction material is thicker. I have been running them for years. The service life has been roughly three times the 80. My truck does NOT stop any better but the pads last a lot longer.
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Thanks to you both for the information. I'm going to change to 100 pads on the front as part of my 1/4M mile brake tuneup.
Be sure to start with a fresh rotor surface and run them without shims. The shims won't fit and they are not absolutely necessary in any event.
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Slightly off-topic, do you have a recommendation for reman calipers? I assume the national autoparts stores are using Toyota castings, but I would hope there's a difference in the pistons and the seal material.
I am neutral on remans. Toyota does offer remans for 93-mid 95. They are "different" than the mid 95-97 part numbers but visually they look identical. In my professional life I saw a few factory remans that were not very well done. Toyota uses an independent remanufacturer and they sometimes miss the mark. The only way to get "really good calipers" is to buy new ones and they are brutally expensive.
On the other hand when Toyota's core bank gets low they sometimes toss a new caliper in a reman box. That is a major score.
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Yeah, I know what you mean, I rebuilt the calipers on my last 80 (rebore, new pistons, seals, etc.) and I really don't have the time to do it now, hence my motivation for the remans. I my next life, I'm opening a Land Cruiser shop and offering reman services as a sideline.
I haven't verified it, but I've read here that NAPA remans are the best quality aside from a Toyota reman.
I can vouch for the Napa Calipers.
They have a nice black durable (rust free) coating.
Calipers are about ~$80 and they have 10% off coupons if you sign up online.
Takes about 2 days to get after ordering.
They have a nice black durable (rust free) coating.
Calipers are about ~$80 and they have 10% off coupons if you sign up online.
Takes about 2 days to get after ordering.
I just paid 60ea. At Napa.
I also run the 100 pads. I have 220k on it now, put them on with 175k on the odometer. This includes mountain driving, city and obviously dirt. No problems with them. Last time I checked they still had a good amount of material on them. Will be replacing them soon however as I have some brake material build up on at least one of the front rotors and need to address it. I am going to put in new hoses and rotors anyway, may as well replace the pads. Since I am that far into it I am going to service the axles and seals at the same time. Did this the last time I replaced the brakes and it is close to time anyway...
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My experience as well (longer lasting by a wide margin). I've been running 100 series pads (front only) for about 10 years. They are a little tight fitting at first installation, but no problems thereafter.
I installed 100 series pads years ago. Had to hammer/persuade the caliper over the rotor but other than that they have been trouble free. FYI don't touch the rotor after first test drive slamming the breaks around the nieghborhood.
The Napa's have been used by a bunch us ONSC'ers lately, @Malleus. I was surprised to find last week that the OEM remans at Scott Clark weren't priced too badly, but they're still above the Napa's.
I've had 100 pads on my front for almost 3 years. No problems. As stated, they're tight (especially with brand new rotors). I bought it back then with bad brakes so I have no comparison to a stock 80 set.
I've had 100 pads on my front for almost 3 years. No problems. As stated, they're tight (especially with brand new rotors). I bought it back then with bad brakes so I have no comparison to a stock 80 set.
Cant comment on 100 pads but both of my 80's run the NAPA remans front and rear. Out of the box they look quality and have had no problems yet.
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Many thanks for the input.
I know a guy that is running 100 series pads AND CALIPERS on his 80, a 97. He said they bolted in. Something to consider if you are replacing calipers.