Build 1985 FJ60 Gets a Holley Sniper EFI Setup

[HemiAlex]

It’s a small cylinder under the hood that acts as a reservoir.

You use the factory mechanical fuel pump to feed low pressure fuel into it. It then feeds a small fuel pump built into it that boosts up the pressure and sends it to your efi unit. It’s maybe slightly larger than a 2 liter bottle. Plenty of space under the hood for them.

The reason the built in electric pump will last longer is that it is cooled by the fuel that it’s pumping. It’s the same idea as a modern efi fuel pump in a regular tank.

Apologize for being mechanically challanged and asking very basic questions....But, that's what I am...this states.its submerged in gas/yet also says installs under the hood....I'm confused how that works out....lol. how can it be "quiet bc it's submerged in gas" yet "installs under the hood???

Would this replace the last.piece of the puzzle I'm missing...in other words does it replace me.needing a fuel pump kit ect. Thanks

 

[wngrog]

Looks a lot easier than running an internal fuel pump and high pressure lines.

So, from the 2F mechanical pump you run a line to this thing then a line from it to the Fuel injection of choice.

Hmmm

 

[HemiAlex]

Looks a lot easier than running an internal fuel pump and high pressure lines.

So, from the 2F mechanical pump you run a line to this thing then a line from it to the Fuel injection of choice.

Hmmm

Yep. That’s exactly it.

 

[WSOPgold2012]

It’s a small cylinder under the hood that acts as a reservoir.

You use the factory mechanical fuel pump to feed low pressure fuel into it. It then feeds a small fuel pump built into it that boosts up the pressure and sends it to your efi unit. It’s maybe slightly larger than a 2 liter bottle. Plenty of space under the hood for them.

The reason the built in electric pump will last longer is that it is cooled by the fuel that it’s pumping. It’s the same idea as a modern efi fuel pump in a regular tank.

Appreciate your response. I just watched the Video on it...and I think I basically understand LOL!!! AND Im rather certain this is the route I'm gnna take....glad I've waited to pull the trigger on this last piece and happy you posted this option.

There are 3 options listed. I'm guessing the 1st $299 option is fine for the Sniper 2300 conversion...correct?

Thanks a bunch!!!

 

[HemiAlex]

Appreciate your response. I just watched the Video on it...and I think I basically understand LOL!!! AND Im rather certain this is the route I'm gnna take....glad I've waited to pull the trigger on this last piece and happy you posted this option.

There are 3 options listed. I'm guessing the 1st $299 option is fine for the Sniper 2300 conversion...correct?

Thanks a bunch!!!

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I’d call them. They’re super helpful.

 

[WSOPgold2012]

I’d call them. They’re super helpful.

Just emailed em...and will call tommorow if I don't hear back. Again...thanks a bunch, super excited with this option!!!

 

[WSOPgold2012]

Looks a lot easier than running an internal fuel pump and high pressure lines.

So, from the 2F mechanical pump you run a line to this thing then a line from it to the Fuel injection of choice.

Hmmm

I'm 100% using this option...Sniper conversion with this pump going to happen this week. Will let ya know how it goes if you're still on the fence

 

[WSOPgold2012]

I’d call them. They’re super helpful.

Amazingly fast response time lol....

 

[Dustin Messina]

I did the Sniper Kit w/Fuel pump about 6 mo. ago and Absolutely love it, had to work out some bugs but the Holley tech line has been real helpful, my fuel pump seems happier when not letting it get below a qtr of a tank, an in tank pump is always best but I thought I'd try it first. The kit took me a day to have the truck running again. Also I figured out my charcoal canister was clogged so I re routed it to the line running into the frame with a filter on the end...that is as must do mod or replacement of the canister, I was getting fuel bubbling and pressure build up in the tank which will cause flooding and poor response or vaperlocki symptoms if you are running a carb or efi unit. Couple all that with a header and 2.5 exhaust to a flow master to my 220k 2F runs incredible now!

What kind of bugs did you have to work out on the setup?

 

[Willard]

Looks a lot easier than running an internal fuel pump and high pressure lines.

So, from the 2F mechanical pump you run a line to this thing then a line from it to the Fuel injection of choice.

Hmmm

Yep. That’s exactly it.

That simplifies things for sure.
@WSOPgold2012 keep us posted if you go this route.

 

[Dustin Messina]

I'd love to see a little drawing/diagram of the fuel line set-ups that people are using with and without the charcoal canister... (the entire fuel line system, not just around the canister)

So I kept my factory hard lines in tack and that made it very easy for the return line. Coming off of the in tank pump I ran the 5/16 rubber fuel lines to the send and return factory hard lines. Under the hood I ran rubber 5/16 fuel lines off the factory hard lines and routed it in the exact location as the factory fuel lines under the hood. Even use the same plastic line holder sitting on the charcoal canister bracket. When I say I took factory route. I did all the way, I piped it up and around the valve cover etc. For the charcoal canister I ditched the entire factory setup hard line in frame include. I am running the GM canister that I have one side running to the hard line that goes to the tank via vacuum hose and then I ran vacuum hose to the hard line on the fire wall that runs to Driver side engine bay where the factory canister line is ran. Then I ran that to one of the vacuum ports on the Sniper. I've read that they need ported vacuum to operate, but my ported vacuum is ran to the Dizzy so I just hooked into vacuum and it seems to be working fine. Not pressure on tank and no leaks. I will try to get some pictures posted later tonight.

 

[Dustin Messina]

After much recent research on this topic, I would say that consensus is pretty well split between those who prefer a re-curved OEM distributor and those who prefer an HEI type distributor. Both camps seem to believe that a properly setup mechanical/vacuum advance dizzy will perform as well as a EFI processor controlled one. I have the DUI dizzy model that's setup for the 2FE and am happy with it. I do not plan to set up the sniper to control the dizzy.

I am running a stock Dizzy now with no issues however I do have a recurved Dizzy on the way from Jimc.

 

[Dustin Messina]

RobbMc Performance Products - PowerSurge

Another option for those not wanting to use the Fitech fuel system. My friend @houstonfj40 is using it on his fitech 40 series with good results.

I’ve heard mixed results with the fitech fuel system.

What is this nonsense?!?!?! That looks awesome and could save a lot of work on this conversion. I hope somebody installs one!

 

[wngrog]

What is this nonsense?!?!?! That looks awesome and could save a lot of work on this conversion. I hope somebody installs one!

You will be installing one with me.

 

[Dustin Messina]

You will be installing one with me.

I am ready lets do this! Tell @FJ60Cam to hurry up with your rebuild so we can see a piggie fly!

 

[Willard]

RobbMc Performance Products - PowerSurge

Another option for those not wanting to use the Fitech fuel system. My friend @houstonfj40 is using it on his fitech 40 series with good results.

I’ve heard mixed results with the fitech fuel system.

I am ready lets do this! Tell @FJ60Cam to hurry up with your rebuild so we can see a piggie fly!

Doing some quick research on this, it is about the size of a Charcoal canister and it essentially a mini gas tank. So a few things to think about.
Location to heat sources (do not want to boil off the gas inside) and location to the front (in case of a collision).

Other than that, some mixed reviews, mainly negatives from guys who never installed it.

 

[Dustin Messina]

Doing some quick research on this, it is about the size of a Charcoal canister and it essentially a mini gas tank. So a few things to think about.
Location to heat sources (do not want to boil off the gas inside) and location to the front (in case of a collision).

Other than that, some mixed reviews, mainly negatives from guys who never installed it.

I could maybe see people having negative concerns with it if they are hot rodding a vehicle, but for a 2f you just need consistency. I guess like you said the only concern I may see is fuel location for heat or collision.

 

[woytovich]

And this rig is just to avoid having to do an in-tank fuel pump?

 

[Dustin Messina]

And this rig is just to avoid having to do an in-tank fuel pump?

Looks like it gives you a solid alternative with less effort and accessibility. I love the in tank pump, but it is more work for sure. Also, I think you said you have one of @FJ60Cam pumps on order. Make sure you do the accessory door. It was a life saver. Yes, you have to cut a hole in your floor, but the idea of it was worse then doing it! The 4x8 door gives you total access to pump and fittings, should never need to drop tank again.

 

[Willard]

And this rig is just to avoid having to do an in-tank fuel pump?

I would say partly. For me if I went fuel injection, it may be a better route than an in tank pump. I am not sure how that would work with a Long range tank.

Ultimately I would just go with a quality pump on the frame rail. Worked fine in my Bronco for years.