1983 FJ60 front axle job questions.

[hj 60]

lol yes storage issues, no real problem but the admins claim it will all be oke tomorrow, for 8 weeks now.
pictures of the cage you asked, but I copy&paste a lot so rather give the link to original picture location,
I hope this is what you are looking for, balls also fell out like you described:

wear that gave an insane amount of clicking in 4x4 low turn, but drove a lot tis way and I think the solenoids failed so someone drove on pavement in 4x4 to get home, or did not notice?

Most metal on the landcruiser has very little tolerances (or big before it actually fails)
Mostly when you see a worn bit it must be replaced, the new birfs have no scratch at all, like camshafts maybe.

tolerance example:
The pinion (cros shaft) should have no wear (0.002 inches = 0.0508 millimeters)
Lokka spacer clearance 0.006 to 0.020 " = 0.178 to 0.508 mm

 

[fjgdk]

lol yes storage issues, no real problem but the admins claim it will all be oke tomorrow, for 8 weeks now.
pictures of the cage you asked, but I copy&paste a lot so rather give the link to original picture location,
I hope this is what you are looking for, balls also fell out like you described:
/QUOTE]

Thanks HJ60. Those pics look like by birf, unfortunately I couldn't make out what I wanted definitively, but much much appreciated.

I did find the pics in the following forum, marked "Notice one end of the cage is thicker. One end of the inner race has protrusions. When re-assembling, insure that the protrusions are on the same side as the thicker end of the cage." to be what I needed to see.

Here it is:
Rockhound

 

[fjgdk]

lol yes storage issues, no real problem but the admins claim it will all be oke tomorrow, for 8 weeks now.
pictures of the cage you asked, but I copy&paste a lot so rather give the link to original picture location,
I hope this is what you are looking for, balls also fell out like you described:

Sorry have to double post as I mixed what I wanted to say and a quote from HJ60.


Thanks HJ60. Those pics look like by birf, unfortunately I couldn't make out what I wanted definitively, but much much appreciated.

I did find the pics in the following forum, marked "Notice one end of the cage is thicker. One end of the inner race has protrusions. When re-assembling, insure that the protrusions are on the same side as the thicker end of the cage." to be what I needed to see.

Here it is:
Rockhound

 

[hj 60]

Nice write up, it is in the FSM page FA-21 (page 178 in pdf)
I threw mine away, to much to do and I have two new spare, but I think if you practice a bit without grease you will be a master even blindfolded.
fsm chassis body:
chassis-body-84-90 720 pag.pdf

not the same but almost:

 

[fjgdk]

Nice write up, it is in the FSM page FA-21 (page 178 in pdf)
I threw mine away, to much to do and I have two new spare, but I think if you practice a bit without grease you will be a master even blindfolded.
fsm chassis body:
chassis-body-84-90 720 pag.pdf

not the same but almost:

Ok now I'm screwed. Looking down at the cage I cant quite discern a "thicker side", both look the same. Any thoughts ?

 

[NeverGiveUpYota]

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Ok now I'm screwed. Looking down at the cage I cant quite discern a "thicker side", both look the same. Any thoughts ?

Last pix looks thicker to me if your talking about the beveled edges?

 

[fjgdk]

Last pix looks thicker to me if your talking about the beveled edges?

Ah ok. I couldnt tell if the thicker "face" of the cage or the thicker "flat" part of the cage is what I was looking for. They are om opposite sides. Sounds like the the thicker "face" of the cage is what I am looking for.

 

[NeverGiveUpYota]

I'm only following this thread because I'm weird like that... Definitely don't go by me... other than visually the lower pix appears thinner at the outer most edge IF that is what your seeking for thoughts. I'd tag the other folks in the thread if you need guidance quick.

 

[fjgdk]

"Wider face, thinner "inner chamfer""

"Thinner face, wider "inner chamfer""

 

[NeverGiveUpYota]

Appears correct in my eyes. Go for it, I'll look forward to see how it goes.

 

[fjgdk]

Appears correct in my eyes. Go for it, I'll look forward to see how it goes.

So the 40 series birf cage had a wider and thinner side when looking directly down at the birf cage holes overhead; apparently the 60 series has a wider chamfer but both sides looking down on the holes overhead are equivalent (what i am seeing). A bit confusing which chamfer they are referring to. There are two parts it could refer to and I am having a tough time taking a good picture of it to make this an easier question. I apologize for that.

 

[fjgdk]

Here is an amateurish drawing of what i am seeing:

 

[NeverGiveUpYota]

Holy good god I see what you mean. That dimension is so slight its crazy. Surprised there isn't a measurement to check.

 

[NeverGiveUpYota]

@hj 60, help this guy out!

 

[Stumpalama]

When I get home I'll pull one of mine out and break it down.

 

[fjgdk]

When I get home I'll pull one of mine out and break it down.

Thanks to all in advance for your help, this is awesome to get so much help from mere strangers !

 

[NeverGiveUpYota]

Thanks to all in advance for your help, this is awesome to get so much help from mere strangers !

Mere strangers but we are all in the same boat. Thank god for them... edited: I thought nada one here on mud answered my post today (but a few had) and thankfully I was able to just call someone via mud I had in my phone and get my confusion cleared up. Phone trees are big. Get numbers, it helps!

 

[Stumpalama]

So, It is NOT about the cage, it is about the Chamfer on the edge of the cage. The last picture in post 89 is the wide chamfer and faces towards the differential. Also, in the album linked below, you'll see that the protrusions also face inward toward the diff.

Some pictures here of how it should look: https://goo.gl/photos/aHQcGzEGdre1BQfE7

 

[B Bear]

Just to ask most 60 series came with locking hubs, so how much actual wear is on the front axle joint. An axle with 100,000 miles may only have a few 1000 miles of usage on a dd. What would cause them to wear?

 

[fjgdk]

So, It is NOT about the cage, it is about the Chamfer on the edge of the cage. The last picture in post 89 is the wide chamfer and faces towards the differential. Also, in the album linked below, you'll see that the protrusions also face inward toward the diff.

Some pictures here of how it should look: https://goo.gl/photos/aHQcGzEGdre1BQfE7

Ok thanks a ton for looking into this. Sounds like the length "D" in my confusing drawing is the "wide chamfer" on the referred to in the fsm.