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Yeah, I searched....(76 Pig 2F Tech Query Inside)
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Don't think it's going to come to that, Si.
The ACC build is an actual 3F, which is longer by a speculated 1-1 1/2" than a 2F assembly.
Granted, there's a triple groove pulley, fan, fan clutch to hang off the end of the 2F in mine, but maintaining the engine powered fan, at the sake of a custom radiator, if need be.
What do you think of the air cleaner assembly and orientation for mine?
Have to relocate the battery, but the DS fender well will be free of all, so that is doable.
Other thought was shortening the intake tube and mounting it on the DS fender, but unsure of the consequences.
The ACC build is an actual 3F, which is longer by a speculated 1-1 1/2" than a 2F assembly.
Granted, there's a triple groove pulley, fan, fan clutch to hang off the end of the 2F in mine, but maintaining the engine powered fan, at the sake of a custom radiator, if need be.
What do you think of the air cleaner assembly and orientation for mine?
Have to relocate the battery, but the DS fender well will be free of all, so that is doable.
Other thought was shortening the intake tube and mounting it on the DS fender, but unsure of the consequences.
the only thing to worry about mounting it drivers side, is heat soak- so no worries really. I don't see a problem with that air cleaner set-up on either side of the bay-I have always thought that was a better air cleaner type...
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May not be enough room here....
Height wise. Think I still have an OE 80 cleaner, which should be similar in size, to play around with.
Not opposed to moving battery, but would hope it could be done with the OE tray and a little reinforcement in the inner fender that it attaches to.
Height wise. Think I still have an OE 80 cleaner, which should be similar in size, to play around with.
Not opposed to moving battery, but would hope it could be done with the OE tray and a little reinforcement in the inner fender that it attaches to.
What AC condenser is that? I like...
You should be able to fit a can style air cleaner and battery on the pass side.
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As far as I know and can determine from thread, it's from a 60, as the thread claimed the only non-OE part was the condenser.
Think the the cleaner in the front corner, leaving battery location alone?
After measuring, the OE 2F cleaner that's on the Pig now will fit the 3F carb with minor modifications and cleaning up the unused ports.
Only issues with that is not knowing which valve cover will fit the later 2F head and rocker arms.
Cool. I have to go back to that thread. It is in the 40/55 section, eh?
Yes.
If the 2F cleaner will fit easily, I would go with that...
Oh Man! That starter had to hurt. You have some unbelievable parts. All of these are for the 72?
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All for the 76 2F. Already have what's available for the 72....which isn't much when it comes to the engine internals.
Sadly, some of the boxes have intermingled so need a full day with bins and direct line to Onur to sort out. (I hear you cussing me.)
For the 2F, all but the head, H55, 60 series big cap dizzy (dented cover), 3F Aisan and the split case brake are on hand....I think...
Going to try to get inventoried and packaged in preparation for the overhaul to commence very shortly after I have title in hand....whenever that may be.
Since the '76, or the 2F will be stock, I hope that is a gear reduction starter from a 60 series?
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It is.
To preface, I AM nuts, period.
Saved a seized 2F from the scrapper a few months ago and wound up with this....even though I had forgotten I had. (Pretty much, found it in the bed of the Ford).
So, the block is going to be out anyway.....why not tap it for the OE bracket?
Not using smog pump and the PS pump will be OE, as of now and even though I don't have on hand, so seems an easy step to locate using the OE mount, especially since it will be at a machine shop for boring, anyway.
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Would the 3FE PS pump utilize the later 2F PS bracket?
Yeah, I'll search, but...
Edited: Found and answered.....so, next question.
Can the 2F be adapted to the 3FE power steering pump/AC compressor configuration, and move the alternator to the DS?
Yeah, I'll search, but...
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"BTW, fj hunter's post reminded me that a 3FE has the power steering pump/reservoir mounted on the passenger side of the block and the bracket mates up to the holes tapped in the block for the alternator bracket. If you can relocate your alternator, maybe you could run the power steering in that location....there's a thread somewhere here on MUD from someone who did this....."
Yeah, I'll search, but...
Edited: Found and answered.....so, next question.
Can the 2F be adapted to the 3FE power steering pump/AC compressor configuration, and move the alternator to the DS?
Yeah, I'll search, but...
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"BTW, fj hunter's post reminded me that a 3FE has the power steering pump/reservoir mounted on the passenger side of the block and the bracket mates up to the holes tapped in the block for the alternator bracket. If you can relocate your alternator, maybe you could run the power steering in that location....there's a thread somewhere here on MUD from someone who did this....."
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Delancy,
Hands down, you ARE the search master!
I have no room to comment on anyone's sanity level!
Hands down, you ARE the search master!
I have no room to comment on anyone's sanity level!
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Searching, planning, acquiring is one thing.
Adapting and implementing a complete separate.
I'd prefer to be proficient at the latter....and less crazy.
Anyhow, going to ponder the 3FE passenger side bracket with Power Steering pump above the AC compressor, and search for an option for a DS alternator mount.
Off topic.
Posting before I delete from Photos, due to iPhone storage issues.....and just to look at.
Adapting and implementing a complete separate.
I'd prefer to be proficient at the latter....and less crazy.
Anyhow, going to ponder the 3FE passenger side bracket with Power Steering pump above the AC compressor, and search for an option for a DS alternator mount.
Off topic.
Posting before I delete from Photos, due to iPhone storage issues.....and just to look at.
I ran the stock PS and alt configuration on my 3FE conversion, the wiring wasn't bad and you can run the power steering lines across under the radiator using stock FJ62 lines. I would think the mounting points in the head would be the issue, not that a little fabbing couldn't work around that.
Two mounting bolts in head:
Bracket mounted:
Hardlines running across;
Alt bracket:
Tucker
Two mounting bolts in head:
Bracket mounted:
Hardlines running across;
Alt bracket:
Tucker
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I can't find the thread now, but I was under the impression from reading that the 3FE PS and AC mounts utilized existing 2F threaded block mounts.
Can't say of that's early or later, or if I hallucinated it, BUT IF so, then I'd consider mounting both the PS and AC in that location, mounting the alternator on the DS, using either the smog pump bracket, or even an F's...
Smog pump brackets in 76, now.
THEN....
Could mount the battery DS or PS, if air cleaner dictated a move, orient new PS lines like the 62 lines, or use 62 lines to a cooler.
All this IF there's attachment points for the 3FE PS and AC mount on the 2F block.
Rebuildable, more efficient PS pump.
More efficient AC compressor (since the rest of the system has to upgrade, anyway)
All Cruiser......
Thinking I'll paint the head Freeborn Red so I can coin the Pig the "Redheaded Stepchild" in light of the hodgepodge of DNA.
Can't say of that's early or later, or if I hallucinated it, BUT IF so, then I'd consider mounting both the PS and AC in that location, mounting the alternator on the DS, using either the smog pump bracket, or even an F's...
Smog pump brackets in 76, now.
THEN....
Could mount the battery DS or PS, if air cleaner dictated a move, orient new PS lines like the 62 lines, or use 62 lines to a cooler.
All this IF there's attachment points for the 3FE PS and AC mount on the 2F block.
Rebuildable, more efficient PS pump.
More efficient AC compressor (since the rest of the system has to upgrade, anyway)
All Cruiser......
Thinking I'll paint the head Freeborn Red so I can coin the Pig the "Redheaded Stepchild" in light of the hodgepodge of DNA.
As you can see, that's simply not true for the PS. Don't remember how the A/C mounted because I removed and sold it (this was going in a 40), but it was below the PS pump. The pics are of an '89 3FE -
Tucker
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That's just it, I can't see it. I have no clue how the alternator is tapped into the passenger side of 76 2F block.
Going to look for pics....
Edited: OK. You win....I think....
I can't tell in pic, but looks like my idear is flawed, as I see no provisions for the alternator bracket on the side.
Guess LambCrusher is right. I do better at picture reading.
Edited again.
That head appears to have provisions for, or am I hallucinating again?
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