Yeah, I searched....(76 Pig 2F Tech Query Inside)

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Funny......

So, I'm a little lost in many aspects, but have been thinking about the manifolds, mostly a permanent, unnoticeable fix the the EGR port and the unused mounts (can't find anything that mounted here, except possibly EGR valves on RHD 70s...)

In question...

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Hunting further explanation to Jim's comments and how it may relate to these manifolds and/or valve cover.

Elbert said:
what are you plugging the hole in the manifold where the EGR connected? I assume it would be good to get a gasket and have a mchine shop fab up a couple of "blanks" in the same dimisions as the gasket and use this as block-of-plate?
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FJ40Jim said:
I prefer to put a coin of 1" bar stock in the hole and MIG around it. but that requires removal of the manifolds.

Yes, you can have a block off plate made. but note how the pipe pilots up into the manifold. The pilot helps align the gasket and protects the gasket from direct exposure to exhaust heat and pulsation. A flat block off plate doesn't work so well at holding the gasket in place. If possible, machine the plug to have a raised pilot in the center, like the original pipe.

I just cut the end off the pipe, flatten, weld shut. Then bolt it back on w/a new gasket. Not pretty, but due to the location it's invisible.

The PCV hose connects to the intake manifold, as does the EGR. Cut the EGR tube off, weld shut, grind smooth, paint grey. It's now invisible.
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Does this seem viable? There's not any block off plate in can find and don't really want to use, anyway, but I sure as heck don't feel comfortable welding the intake manifold.

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Can't see any reason to maintain the mounts cast into the intake manifold, and haven't found many instances where Toyota did, either.

The rear most appears to be a mount for the EGR pipe, so it should be unnecessary, too.

Cut off to remove?

Look worse doing that, since the casting surfaces won't be present after ground down?

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EGR inlet is ALSO PCV supply vacuum port. A plate can be made to mount a pipe for PCV hose and simultaniously block off EGR inlet. ALA 2F desmog threads in 60 section...


Leave that poor thing BE! it is just FINE HOW IT IS!!!


just tell people thats where the supercharger bolts up- but that you didn't WANT IT;)


you'll have to do the PCV inlet/EGR block off plate...just have it milled for perfection...


they're gunna use your blood for the vaccine- the flu is strongest in you:lol:
 
before you go cutting mounts off of that manifold, you might just have one made to your liking, and leave the rare parts for PURISTS:flipoff2:
 
fine. cut down front mounting where the EGR valve would have secured but one of the holes below the carb is for PCV, which you will need to keep. in fact, the pipe leaving that port going towards the firewall being supported by the rear mount you are asking about is the PCV line, whose support you will want to keep, in order to keep the PCV pipe...When you look in FJ60 desmog threads, you find the JimC EGR delete...this is in effect what you will want to do; execution may be differed, but principal will remain. As factory, there would have been a cast base plate with a preformed tube leaving aft going to rubber hose connecting said tube to PCV in side cover, and a compression fitting going fore toward the EGR valve/tube mounted in front of carb/egr/pcv inlets on intake manifold. Welding holes shut on the manifolds would scare me- warpage or craking, and anyhow, you need one of thse holes for sure, so then you'd need a custom plate and pcv tube so on and so forth...only trying to help
 
LAMBCRUSHER said:
only trying to help
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All that I gathered from...



You know, I've heard so many different ways to approach the entire resto-mod process, but seems the most advantageous from the perspective of the village idiot, is get it running, then deal with the aesthetics.

As soon as I cut them off, it'd be discovered a feasible mount for something else.

Most all is sourced and on hand, so going to start boxing stuff up in the next couple weeks for the engine build. Probably makes better sense to get it running, dialed in, then worry with aesthetics.
 
Delancy said:
All that I gathered from...



You know, I've heard so many different ways to approach the entire resto-mod process, but seems the most advantageous from the perspective of the village idiot, is get it running, then deal with the aesthetics.

As soon as I cut them off, it'd be discovered a feasible mount for something else.

Most all is sourced and on hand, so going to start boxing stuff up in the next couple weeks for the engine build. Probably makes better sense to get it running, dialed in, then worry with aesthetics.
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I'm ok with being an idiot...and I am akin to smaller communities. keep it simple, stupid simon;) is my motto. but I have no problem with foresight; it is easy to get caught in the eddy of the planning stage tho. I for one don't think unused mounting locations looks amiss, and better to keep the part usable for future applications- you may end up mounting an egr to that boss someday...trust me, I have cut more s*** off my rig than I want to admit to in the name of making it better, sometimes it works out for the worst...I have been giving thought to using 305 pistons in the 3FE block, that means 1100 bucks in custom rods in order to use a 2F crank and 3FE block for a short rod 2FE, but it works on paper- crazy, I know. and I know you know. and I know you know I know you know...takes one to know one....bottom line is I say leave it be, make or source an egr/pcv inlet to modify for no smog;)I know it can be done clean
 
LAMBCRUSHER said:
I'm ok with being an idiot...and I am akin to smaller communities.
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Good. Then I fit right in.

LAMBCRUSHER said:
I know, and I know you know, and I know you know, I know you know,...takes one to know one....
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Watch this.....

I'm not cutting, manipulating, changing, even going to think about this aspect for another second.

Sometimes, it's necessary to not pay attention to the forest, but focus on the trees.....

Anyhow, was explained to me that the 3FE cam suited my purposes best and the lifters should be included in the process.

Thinking that rounds out what's within my realm of responsibilities and capabilities.....being ordering chit.....

Once received, going to box up and send with the other engine internals for a brief stint in the deep freeze, as Robbie advised.

After that, should leave the unknowns as being 3FE mounts/motor mounts, air cleaner assembly, cross member, and valve cover year/model....if the research has been done correctly....well, that and any unknown, unknowns that aren't known yet.

Will focus efforts on reconditioning the AC and heater assembly.....
 
Headed to the freezer:

(6) 1.5OS Pistons (13107-61011)
(6) 1.5OS Rings (13107-61010)
(6) Con Rods (13207-60011)
(1) Camshaft (13511-60060)
(12) Lifters (13751-61020)
(1) Rocker Shaft (13901-61020)
(1) Cam Bearing Set (11802-61010)
(6) Rockers (13811-61030)
(6) Rockers (13812-61030)
(12) Push Rods (13781-61010)

Cleaned up a dizzy and igniter from 3puppies last week, sent to Jim C. for him to do "unspeakable things" to.

Dirty pics....

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Have 93% of everything to get it on, but lacking the all important title....

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