ARCHIVE Wits' End Turbo Test Mule #3- no cartwheeling allowed
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Bill did most of the leg work and nozzle mount fabrication. The base system came from Kennedy's Dynotune in Tonowanda New York. The original application was for a turbocharged 5 liter Mustang.
Around here (low desert Arizona) you see 2 formulae for windshield washer fluid - summer/normal, and winter.
But even in winter, most stores here only carry the summer version, 'cause it only barely sometimes gets down to freezing.
The winter version may be common in cold places like Flagstaff, don't know.
I'm sort of assuming only the winter formula has 30% methanol, for it's antifreeze effect.
What can you tell us about that?
Also, any concern over small amounts of detergents / surfactants, or blue/green dyes for engine injection?
Have you found any other sources of low cost methanol?
Would denatured alcohol from the hardware store work OK? (Klean Strip SDS says 40-60% methanol, 30-50% ethanol).
How about isopropyl?
edit - looked up some answers: Of the common 3 alcohols, methanol has the highest enthalpy of vaporization, but not hugely.
Ethanol and isopropyl are pretty good too. All 3 have very high octane ratings.
So - any alcohol you have will do fine, if you need it to stay "liquid". (Personally, I prefer a nice single malt
)
Other common solvents? I've run 1/2 a tank of 10% lacquer thinner in a premium fuel spec'd car - ran it hard - ran great.
No - not miscible with water.
But even in winter, most stores here only carry the summer version, 'cause it only barely sometimes gets down to freezing.
The winter version may be common in cold places like Flagstaff, don't know.
I'm sort of assuming only the winter formula has 30% methanol, for it's antifreeze effect.
What can you tell us about that?
Also, any concern over small amounts of detergents / surfactants, or blue/green dyes for engine injection?
Have you found any other sources of low cost methanol?
Would denatured alcohol from the hardware store work OK? (Klean Strip SDS says 40-60% methanol, 30-50% ethanol).
How about isopropyl?
edit - looked up some answers: Of the common 3 alcohols, methanol has the highest enthalpy of vaporization, but not hugely.
Ethanol and isopropyl are pretty good too. All 3 have very high octane ratings.
So - any alcohol you have will do fine, if you need it to stay "liquid". (Personally, I prefer a nice single malt
)Other common solvents? I've run 1/2 a tank of 10% lacquer thinner in a premium fuel spec'd car - ran it hard - ran great.
No - not miscible with water.
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The most important aspect for the OBDII 1FZFE is the charge cooling, so you want more water than methanol. The only reason to run a very high methanol content like CDan does is because he has a TRD SC on an OBDI truck and he needs the additional fuel.
For an OBDII truck running 100% water would be just fine. You are right the reason for the methanol is just for the antifreeze aspect. If it doesn't get cold enough to freeze you do not need the -20f rated windshield washer fluid.
Most windshield water fluids will list the ingredients and it should only be 3, water, methanol and blue dye. If they don't list the contents what I do is shake the bottle and make sure there are no bubbles or foam. I have been using my water/meth injection for 5 years now and I only use windshield washer fluid.
For an OBDII truck running 100% water would be just fine. You are right the reason for the methanol is just for the antifreeze aspect. If it doesn't get cold enough to freeze you do not need the -20f rated windshield washer fluid.
Most windshield water fluids will list the ingredients and it should only be 3, water, methanol and blue dye. If they don't list the contents what I do is shake the bottle and make sure there are no bubbles or foam. I have been using my water/meth injection for 5 years now and I only use windshield washer fluid.
Just yesterday, I was telling myself, "No, you don't need meth injection. You don't even know what it is." And now, I have been convinced that meth is for me. Jinkies, never thought I'd say that. Thanks guys! Happy 4th, suck it England! 
I run 50/50 (by volume) methanol and distilled water. Methanol can be found in 5 gallon cans but you have to look for it. I bought this can a month ago for less than 30 bucks. It lasts me quite a while.
@cruiserdan living clean and pure.
We'll be able to pick out the turbo'd trucks running windshield washer injection by the blue Smurf farts trailing behind.
We'll be able to pick out the turbo'd trucks running windshield washer injection by the blue Smurf farts trailing behind.
mudgudgeon
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I only pioneered making it look good
So exactly how do you make an air freshener look good?
Anodising?
Laser etching?
How many prototypes did you run?
Just yesterday, I was telling myself, "No, you don't need meth injection. You don't even know what it is." And now, I have been convinced that meth is for me. Jinkies, never thought I'd say that. Thanks guys! Happy 4th, suck it England!
Meth injection.... A/W intercooler.... complete titanium bolt set....
Yeah but the you cant roll down the windows.
I have been reading about guys using meth kits on the M56 with direct injection to keep the intake valves clean, apparently it’s a real problem in all the direct injected (gas) motors.
In your land cruiser not so much.
Outsane
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Good stuff, in for more great info. I ordered and installed the same condenser.
NLXTACY
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Since I now stock the 1FZ power steering pump rebuild kit : 80 Series 1FZ Power Steering Pump Rebuilt Kit
...figured I might as well rebuild my own pump. Then I start goofing around with some ideas and testing some materials, and made a Wits’ End version of Jim’s (@midfat) badass original idea and made a gear handle out of wood then ABS. Settled on ABS and cut out a bunch of them because it’s just too damn handy. Negates the need for a leather glove and nut comes off and on crazy easy.
...figured I might as well rebuild my own pump. Then I start goofing around with some ideas and testing some materials, and made a Wits’ End version of Jim’s (@midfat) badass original idea and made a gear handle out of wood then ABS. Settled on ABS and cut out a bunch of them because it’s just too damn handy. Negates the need for a leather glove and nut comes off and on crazy easy.
Cool! Is the gear tool for sale yet? I was about to make a wooden one. Need it before first of August.
Correct me if i am wrong, but would the purple windshield wash fluid be more desirable in this application? Or what about mixing your own formula with a bottle of concentrate? Just want to learn as much as I can. Thank you.
For an OBDII 1FZE truck the most desirable would be just plain distilled water, the only reason the methanol needs to be added is for freeze protection. If it is the middle of summer you could run cheap plain distilled water and get the most cooling benefit. I only run windshield washer fluid because I have a single large tank for; washing my windows, cooling my intercooler and spraying water/meth.
There is no need to over think this. In open loop there is already more fuel than we need, there is no need to add extra methanol. If you have a separate tank from your windshield washer fluid run straight water with as little methanol as needed to keep it from freezing. If you want to mix your own that is fine, if you want to have the ease and convenience of using windshield washer fluid that is fine too.
I would be cautious using any windshield washer fluid that was purple or orange or had "debug" or water repellant on it. Just plain old blue with water, methanol and blue dye.
There is no need to over think this. In open loop there is already more fuel than we need, there is no need to add extra methanol. If you have a separate tank from your windshield washer fluid run straight water with as little methanol as needed to keep it from freezing. If you want to mix your own that is fine, if you want to have the ease and convenience of using windshield washer fluid that is fine too.
I would be cautious using any windshield washer fluid that was purple or orange or had "debug" or water repellant on it. Just plain old blue with water, methanol and blue dye.
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1973Guppie
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this is great to know, I purchased the "boost juice" from snow but once I install the system it is nice to know I can just use the grocery store distilled water.
Thank you, That is exactly what i wanted to know. I look forward to joey having his running!
