Lose The Lexus Or Lose My Membership !!!!!!!!

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our TLCA chapter has a Lexus LX450 like socaldoug's...w/ all 3 factory lockers. SWEET ride! can't tell it from a FZJ80. of course that member has a cruiser stable that may only be eclipsed by Landpimp's. i didn't think twice about the Lexus on the cover, and started reading the great quality articles. i even read the minitruck tech article and i don't own a mini. can't wait to see a complete write up the 470. Great article Nolan! Monster, your opinion is noted. proves you can't make everyone happy all the time.

i am a delegate to TLCA and i totally support Todd and all the people that make TLCA run. i couldnt be happier with the direction TLCA is taking. Todd, looks like the majority love what you are doing. keep it up!

Shawn Williams
President- High Desert Cruisers
 
I can't really think of a response that hasn't already been mentioned. I just want to be a part of this historical thread. BTW the most exciting part of the article was the self setting pop tent side note. I have to get me one of those. I'm also looking forward to the next Lexus article "Adjusting the surround sound for the rear DVD player".:flipoff2:
 
Others have done well to point out how much of a dumbass this "Monster 45" guy is, I won't bother.

But I will say this about Lexus. I recently sold my beloved FJ62 for several reasons, I'll miss it dearly. I looked at a lot of cars, everything from BMWs to VWs, with a very critical eye. I did a lot of research and homework, took a lot of test drives, and had to endure a LOT of crap from used car salesmen. Purchasing a vehicle is something I take very seriously. I ended up buying a '98 Lexus ES300, I bought it from a Lexus dealer that had originally leased it new and had taken it in on trade for a new one.

I couldn't be happier with the car. And it didn't matter to the dealer that I was buying a 6 year old car with 60K miles on it for less than 1/2 of it's original purchase price and they were not making a huge markup on it like I'm sure they do on the new units. They treated me like a king, very professional, the customer service is first rate. Just this morning the Service Manager called me personally because she understood I had a question about it's previous history. She was very happy to print it out and send it to me in the mail. The owner's manual in the glove box was a little tattered and dog-eared... not a problem, just go to lexus.com and register your VIN, they sent me a new set of manuals free of charge.

But underneath, this car is a Toyota, no question about it. Toyota names all over the place, especially under the hood. You could say it's just a Camry wearing a tuxedo. Everything about the car is just a little bit more refined, a little more comfortable, etc.

My son just started a Toyota/Lexus training program at the local community college, Toyota goes out of their way to support this program. His advisor used to work for Lexus, he says they are incredibly customer-focused. I already know what my next car will be, I want one of those new IS300 SportCross models.
 
fixed it for ya :D

Romer said:
Ken Romer - Proud member of the TLCA and Rising Sun 4x4 club and Lexus owner.
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Christo............ :cheers:

maybe we should be talking about this over on Franks site.........he does have a 100 series forum ya know ;)
http://landcruisaholics.com/forum/


sleeoffroad said:
Uhm, lets see, if you knew your Land Cruisers as you say you do you would know that the US version of the Lexus is sold as is, with all the options in Japan as a Land Cruiser. OK, the grill is different, but all the options that make it a Lexus is available on the the Land Cruiser. Memory Seats, skyhook hydraulic suspension etc.

The only conclusion that I can make is that you then say that the 100 series is also a sorry excuse for a Land Cruiser and Todd must never feature one of those, oh, he did a couple months ago. Why did you not shout then?

Would it be more of a Cruiser if I rip the 4.7 motor out and replace with a Chevy 350, put a L46E (or whatever, I happen to know Toyota tranny numbers) tranny it it with Atlas transfercase and some portals or Dana axles? Hell, I could swap the badging to Toyota, should be easy, chaning the hood and lights (which are just about the only exterior pieces that are different) might be a little more difficult.

Just one word, Toyota did not stop existing when they stopped making the FJ40. If it was not for the current models etc etc, would you have been able to walk into the dealer and purchase oem parts for your rig. Hell no, if they were still trying to sell the FJ40 (and few other cars that they started with in the US) I think they would be out of business.

Psst, read this http://www.toyota.co.jp/en/news/03/0929.html

Oh, and for the other comments on the cost of the vehicle, hey a 1998 LX470 does not go for $60k. It has a 100k miles on it and I am pretty sure I have less money it in than Nolen in his genuine Toyota FJwhateveritisthisweeksinceIwillchangeitnextweek :D

Plus I was asked by one of the SUITS from TLCA for a ride. Hell, I thought he was going to show up in a suit so I had to have a decent ride for him. If he was exposed to the elements in a open top FJ45 he might have gotten his facts wrong on the trip and actually wrote an article on expedition wheeling and that it is possible to do that in the us, instead of a inflamatory article on vehicles that should never belong in the trails. I guess that Taco does not count since it was probably made in Canada or some other country. Also the FJ60 did not count either.

Ok, I have to go to the shop now and remove those Lexus symbols. I just can't take it anymore.

Psst Frank, nice of you to keep the Toyota sheetmetal on that 45. If it was not for that I could have sworn it was some chevy mudbogger from the south :flipoff2: (no offence to any Lexus drivers in the south :D)
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BTW Pimp. I disagree. No reason for us to visit his site. His forum has like 0 replies to most threads. Apparently everyone must realize he is a
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Jeez, who pissed in this guy's Wheaties?

I've been a TLCA member for the better part of a decade, I was part of the team that took Toyota Trails from B/W to color publishing, and while this may not be my favorite cover, I don't have *ANY* problem with an LX470 on the cover, a twist in Toyota's marketing approach to the US market doesn't make this "Lexus" any less of a Land Cruiser than a Brazilian Bandeirante. The article by Grogan was very interesting, the photos inside cool, the tech content as good as always, and if I'm allowed to give a compliment, the current Toyota Trails editorial team, including Todd Kaderabek as Editor and Chris Hatfield in Advertising, have done a KILLER job with the magazine, not only picking up where the previous staff left it but taking it up a notch as well.

Monster45, there is a serious war going on, we are in a controversial election year, it's the worst hurricane season in a decade and one of the Olsen twins isn't eating as much as the other one, don't you have anything better to worry about than TT's cover shot?

Cheers!

Henry Cubillan
TLCA #4080
 
Did some checking on his site... he is a real hater... Check out all the s*** this guy had to talk... What a stain...

"I have noticed that another big cruiser website has formed a limited liability company (LLC) and has sold out their website to the banner nazis..... I promise you here and now you will never see banners on this website that I have control over"

Even attacks at personal people (kick his ass Nolen!!!)

"Problem is the only thing being screwed is not just the pooch but the people who pay the dues.... Aside from the Lexus scandal, take a good look at the article by Nolen Grogan. His motivation is clearly spelled out in the bold faced paragraph on Page 5 of the September/October issue of Toyota Trails. He is invited to attend a six day off-road adventure by the large Australian firm ARB and their USA division. So Grogan sees it as an opportunity to get a free trip and kindle a relationship with ARB and in return for their expenditures"

"The streets have a name for this kind of YOU DO ME AND I DO YOU arrangement... It's called pimping. TLCA has pimped all its members this month in the coveted Toyota Trails and they are probably already pimping for next issue. Unless you help to stop them."

"they have gone too far this time. They are going down the pimp daddy road of offroad advertising. If this were a LEXUS club or H2 club, fine. But to do this to a Landcruiser club is sacreligeous. If goes against everything the Landcruiser lifestyle stands for."

"...WITH ALL THE POOCH SCREWING GOING ON IN THE TLCA I MUST BE IN AMSTERDAM."

"Bottom line, ya may as well put a f*ckin flattie on the next cover of TLCA. Then watch your memberships scatter like lemmings at the sight of a fox."

And there is tons more... lets make a roadtrip... ;)
 
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orangefj45 said:
that's one the most ignorant statements i've read on this board!
we need everybody, and we're all here to express our opinions. so frank's not cool with having a lexus on the cover. big fing deal...
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I cordially beg to differ...

We DO NOT need members like Frank... Never have, never will!

I just spent a couple minutes checking out posts he has made on his forums. Every one included slanderous, derogatory comments aimed towards TLCA officers, including specific names. Many of them include lewd comments made viewable to the public.

So PLEASE..... tell me why and organization needs this blemish on their membership lists???

In case you need a reminder... here are some of Franks sincere words... quoted exactly as written from his forum:

"...drop emails to these fools and let them know THEY SCREWED THE POOCH!!!!!"

"Let's call the association the TOYOTA LAND CRUISER-LIKE ASSOCIATION"





LOSE FRANK OR LOSE ME ;)
 
cruiseroutfit said:
So Grogan sees it as an opportunity to get a free trip and kindle a relationship with ARB and in return for their expenditures"
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Funny thing that he does not even know is that the trip was not free to anyone by a long shot.

Read his posts, and please Todd, do a cover of the Monster45 with ugly ass cow catcher so that I can call it a piece of s***! I would even start a forum on my site just to do that. :D

It is amazing that he has the time to write all those rants on his own site but does not get on here and reply to any posts! Makes me thinks of those crazy people at Speakers Corner in London.
 
sleeoffroad said:
...I can call it a piece of s***! I would even start a forum on my site just to do that. :D ....
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I'll start one too... :D
 
Except cornhole boy doesn't see much traffic on his lil site. He's obviously just a wannabee and feels the need to create a fuss so someone realizes he exists, but he doesn't. He's just a fxxxing troll.
 
holly s***! he is a bigger neaderfawkhead then I thought..........he pisses on Woody then comes to Woody's site to bitch about TLCA................what a FAWK!

and Nolen is not a pimp...........I am :D

I think in less than a week Frankasshat has made more ememys than most make in a 10 lifetimes.........

where does this ass monkey live?

cruiseroutfit said:
Did some checking on his site... he is a real hater... Check out all the s*** this guy had to talk... What a stain...

"I have noticed that another big cruiser website has formed a limited liability company (LLC) and has sold out their website to the banner nazis..... I promise you here and now you will never see banners on this website that I have control over"

Even attacks at personal people (kick his ass Nolen!!!)

"Problem is the only thing being screwed is not just the pooch but the people who pay the dues.... Aside from the Lexus scandal, take a good look at the article by Nolen Grogan. His motivation is clearly spelled out in the bold faced paragraph on Page 5 of the September/October issue of Toyota Trails. He is invited to attend a six day off-road adventure by the large Australian firm ARB and their USA division. So Grogan sees it as an opportunity to get a free trip and kindle a relationship with ARB and in return for their expenditures"

"The streets have a name for this kind of YOU DO ME AND I DO YOU arrangement... It's called pimping. TLCA has pimped all its members this month in the coveted Toyota Trails and they are probably already pimping for next issue. Unless you help to stop them."

"they have gone too far this time. They are going down the pimp daddy road of offroad advertising. If this were a LEXUS club or H2 club, fine. But to do this to a Landcruiser club is sacreligeous. If goes against everything the Landcruiser lifestyle stands for."

"...WITH ALL THE POOCH SCREWING GOING ON IN THE TLCA I MUST BE IN AMSTERDAM."

"Bottom line, ya may as well put a f*ckin flattie on the next cover of TLCA. Then watch your memberships scatter like lemmings at the sight of a fox."

And there is tons more... lets make a roadtrip... ;)
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Nice First Post There Frank. Funny Thing - I Ran Across A Picture Of You On The Web...time To Pull Your Head Out!!!!
 
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so where is this asshats reply... recon he didn't know lexii were yota's, considering he lumped them with H2's
 
Landpimp said:
fixed it for ya :D
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Thanks John. I wasn't a Lexus owner when I wrote it, but I am now. Got home with it about 3 AM
 
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