x2. I wouldn't even paint the bezel and top. It's got history. You bought that history. I love them in this kind of condition. It's 50 years old!
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Help needed FJFJFJ / 1962 FJ40 44K ORIGINAL MILES
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fjfjfj,
I notice your wipers are like mine, odd that is. Can I ask a favor, can you take a pic from the inside of your rig of your wiper motors? It is my experience on other folks' rigs, that the wiper blades run parallel to eachother, but on mine (and yours it seems) the blades do not. On mine, one of my motors sits "low" and appeared to have been replaced at some point, I just cant tell what it was replaced with! It is a factory equivalent of the original....almost..
thanks - Chris
YES, I WILL GET PICS IN THE MORNING AND POST. FJFJFJ
I notice your wipers are like mine, odd that is. Can I ask a favor, can you take a pic from the inside of your rig of your wiper motors? It is my experience on other folks' rigs, that the wiper blades run parallel to eachother, but on mine (and yours it seems) the blades do not. On mine, one of my motors sits "low" and appeared to have been replaced at some point, I just cant tell what it was replaced with! It is a factory equivalent of the original....almost..
thanks - Chris
YES, I WILL GET PICS IN THE MORNING AND POST. FJFJFJ
The short answer is no.These two paint sample charts below are your best bet.
To the best of my knowledge no one has been able to locate a definitive catalog from Toyota for the early 40s. All we have to go by are pictures found on the web, some paint sample charts, some of Toyota's early brochures, and some old original paint 40s. Nobody really knows when one paint color started or finished. As an example, the '67-'69 sample card shows the Sulfur Yellow, but the '61 or '62 brochure picture you posted earlier shows an early 40 in this color.
As for your originally white 1962...hard to say which white it actually was. Mud member Wesintl, with the help of Toyota paint sample info acquired by fellow mud member TreerootCO, as been able to identify that the closest Toyota white to his 1964 is actually Sundune White...third picture below.
It is all a bit of a mystery. Another problem, well it was for me at least, is that many modern automotive paint shops can't always take one of these old codes, and mix a new can, as they are not all in the "system".
There are further discretion...as to the actual white of the older tops and Bezels...as I noted above, (Ivory Shell is believed to be the correct color) That I can see, especially in the very early 40s, whatever color was on the body, is also the same color used to paint just about everything else on that 40...rear bumperettes, gas cap, mirrors, seat frames...etc.
EDIT: The seat frames actually started being painted the older silver grey color around 1963/64...as were the glove box and cluster bezel...this is not the same pewter found on newer cruisers.
Anyways, there you have it...just more trivial info my old brain as stored away
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Over fifty years ago you may not be getting the whole story. The guy may not have been just a hunter but a guide who had a business. That would explain the number one on the door. Not unheard of to take a new vehicle and have it painted to have a matching fleet. Could be just a rich guy with a ranch but still wouldn't make sense putting numbers on them if it wasn't a business.
On the paint of the eight cruisers I had that were made before 1963 six were white. Lilly white I can't swear to. One is a grey FJ25 which is that factory color but a paint chart or number have never been found. My newest one a 63 produced in 62 I believe was red. I would have to do a little more research to be sure. What I seen under the tank may have been primer. I know light blue like capri blue was available in 64 on the FJ40. I took parts off a soft top model I found in a junk yard years ago. One of the things I took was the VIN off the fire wall. Besides the VIN starting with with 4 it also said it was a 64 model. While sulfur yellow was a correct factory color there is no proof it was a color ever imported. The factory lit show LHD as well as RHD 40 so it was done in Japan. Most lit from back around that time was in black and white. So other than white it's hard to tell what color the vehicle was.
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Hello you guys,,,,,,,,,,,I found the actual paint code chart with the actual paint chips today at my paint guys store. He did not need it anymore and gave it me. I see the actual colors with no COPY MACHINE interuption. So,,,,,,,,I have a Canon 50d will shoot a very clear image of it and post tonight. That will help some folks I guess. I was amazed how different ( for instance ) Volcanic Beige T-1262 looked in real life chip compared to the copies circulated on MUD. Copy machines really make them ALL look a little different as you guys know so,,,,,,maybe this will help. My camera should get a real clear image. Also, with that chip we were able to make a perfect match of Volcanic Beige single stage. It is just a wonderful looking color. By the way, someone ask about the WIPER MOTORS on my 62. Sorry, I forgot my camera today BUT I did view the wiper motors and in my cruiser they are identical and perfectly situated apart from each other. NEITHER are lower or higher then the other. I do have a pic of one of them that I took the other day for inventory and will post that later tonight. Thanks again for all of you assist. Very helpful stuff above and to LIVING IN THE PAST and MY WIFE SAID NO FJ,,,,,,,,,,,,,We called PPG today and had them actually look in the warehouse for a sample part that was painted Volcanic Beige ( I did not know one could do that ). Well, they did not have a sample so we were of course as you point out, left to create the color ourselves which actually ended up to be quite simple. I mentioned to the paint shop owner that there was a color called DUNE BEIGE that looked kind of similar to Volcanic beige. So since he DID have the code for DUNE BEIGE he mixed up a little batch. We checked it against the REAL LIFE chip sheet. Well, he just added more white and it was PERFECT MATCH!!! So, I ask him to give me the PPG code for what he created. He said he would. Will get it and post. Might help out somebody downline. Who knows. QUESTION: What about an actual match for those orange seats? My seats are in perfect condition but real faded of course after 50 years. Has someone on MUD figured that out. I have seen a few nice orange seats and will research some more but just asking as to perhaps save me a bit of time. Thanks, fjfjfj
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HELLO AGAIN EVERYBODY,,,,,,,,,,,,,Another question,,,,,,,Sorry!! I have not had to paint a cruiser in a long time. Is it the opinion of all you pro's that I use SINGLE STAGE to restore the 1962 FJ40? What is the opinion of ya'll regarding those who use BASE COAT / CLEAR COAT on the early 1961 / 1962 FJ40?? Thanks, fjfjfj
You need to see Shane for the correct seat covers...aatlasx here on mud...he made perfect reproductions for the older seats. Do your front seats have ribs on them?
EDIT: Nope, just went to look, and your front seats are smooth like mine, so to be correct, you would need to make sure Shane makes your front seats smooth. I think the switch from smooth to ribbed might have happened around '63 sometime.
PM me when you get in touch with Shane...I'll ask him to make me a smooth set at the same time
EDIT: Nope, just went to look, and your front seats are smooth like mine, so to be correct, you would need to make sure Shane makes your front seats smooth. I think the switch from smooth to ribbed might have happened around '63 sometime.
PM me when you get in touch with Shane...I'll ask him to make me a smooth set at the same time
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Thanks for seat info and I will contact Shane. That is a very good solution. ALSO,,,,,,,,,,,does anyone have a good vented roof for sale? Mine is crushed and beyond repair. Want to try and find one with that cool vent. Want to stay original if I can. fjfjfj
Let me know if Shane now makes the correct front seat covers for the pre 64 FJ40s. Seats were different on the earlier 40s. The ones I remember Shane making were for Destin's 64. I would to hate someone buy a set of high quality seats the don't fit.
Cool rig! Same year as mine, but is a bit different. The doors are very interesting, never came across that style.
As good of shape as that cruisers in, it would be a shame to modify it. Going to be hard pressed to find another like it.
As good of shape as that cruisers in, it would be a shame to modify it. Going to be hard pressed to find another like it.
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Hello Living in the past: yes, will let you know if Shane makes seats for my 62 and will sure to triple check that they are made to fit. 
Hello Ranger,,,,,,,,,,,,Your so right and no mods here, just a restore and hopefully one that does it justice. I will try and be careful and do it right. Does anyone know where I can get a vented roof top? Thanks, fjfjfj
Hello Ranger,,,,,,,,,,,,Your so right and no mods here, just a restore and hopefully one that does it justice. I will try and be careful and do it right. Does anyone know where I can get a vented roof top? Thanks, fjfjfj
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This is an original Toyota paintcode chip sheet. I photographed it today with a Canon 50d and in my opinion from comparing this pic to my original it is extremely accurate. Thought maybe it might help someone. fjfjfj
This is an original Toyota paintcode chip sheet. I photographed it today with a Canon 50d and in my opinion from comparing this pic to my original it is extremely accurate. Thought maybe it might help someone. fjfjfj
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Hello,,,,,,,,,,,I think I might need a FLYWHEEL for the 1962. It does have the 1962 F engine and stock transmission. Anyone out there selling one? Thanks, fjfjfj
Oh dear...very cool!!!
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Sundune White and Coronado Beige look very similar on my computer monitor, how close are they really?
Hello Living in the past: yes, will let you know if Shane makes seats for my 62 and will sure to triple check that they are made to fit.
So yours does not have the vent in it?
Shame to see that top like that, but I would still keep that top stored some place if you find another one...if for nothing else that drip rail. You can also try bringing it to a local boat place...their fiberglass guys should be able to fix it
A whole 'nother world of discussion here... The purists argue for the single stage,,, the refurbishers argue the two stage is better for the long term and better quality. Obviously two stage is a better quality paint and protected by a clear layer (will stay shinier of the long haul). The single stage is for a true restoration and is easier to touch up (your paint guy can mix that color code into a rattle can).
It is your choice,,, I like both options for different reasons,,, the bif difference is the cost,,, the single stage paint job should cost between $800 to $1,500 (without body work)....... The two stage can cost between $2,000 to $6,000.
Lastly, talk to some paint experts regarding the primer,,, you really want a quality primer and ask them about how many coats applied. If your primer is dark grey or black, it can slightly vary the hue of your new beige paint. When about to pull the trigger, always have them fully paint just one body part, instead of the whole rig.
Cheers
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Hello Crotalusatrox ,,,,,,,,,,,thanks for the important advice regarding paint and primer. Well heed it. fjfjfj
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Roof needed for 1962 fj40. Mine crushed. Might be able to fix but still looking. California or arizona only cause of heavy shipping costs. Thanks, fjfjfj
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Hello you guys,,,,,,,,,,,all my seat frames are painted in my 1962fj40. I am restoring the cruiser and want to confirm that the seat frames from factory were painted the same color as the cruiser, the glove box cover was also painted same color as the cruiser?? Also, does anyone know what color the cluster frame is supposed to be on that year cruiser? Mine was painted. Everything got painted. Amazing. fjfjfj