I think he means OEM shocks paired up with a 2" lift (coils).
I would like to know the same.
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I think he means OEM shocks paired up with a 2" lift (coils).
Are you sure that your rear springs are in the proper location? The need for a 30mm spacer on either side seems odd especially on the passenger since the vehicle is naturally heavier on the driver side. I run Slee heavies and a 10mm spacer on the driver side rear to help level it laterally.I've been playing around with my suspension again and will document my current lift height and components for future reference.
Front:
4" Dobinson's Flexi Coils (C59-614V) which are around 1.5 years old
Icon 2.5" VS (for 4-6" suspension lit) RR (57803P) no CDV
Front Drivers : 25.25" (Center of hub to bottom of fender)
Front Passenger : 25.00"
Aftermarket weight deltas : Front Metal Tech tube bumper +75 lbs, 10k winch +50lbs, 2nd battery +35lbs. Running Tom Woods DC front shaft and Slee caster correction plates. Very happy with front setup. Plush and balanced on-road and off. Planning on swapping to 3" flexi coils to bring it down an inch.
Rear:
4" Slee Medium Coils (Passenger side requires 30mm spacer to be level)
Fox 2.0" RR Custom Valved shocks from DSM
Airlift airbags
Rear Drivers : 24.5" (5psi unloaded bags)
Rear Passenger: 24.25" (5 psi unloaded bags)
Aftermarket weight deltas in rear : "Sean's" Dual swing out rear bumper +160lbs, 35" Toyo MT spare +100lbs, 63qt fridge +75lbs constant weight. Cruiser is used several times a year for dry camping for 2 weeks at a time for 2 people and dog: 15 gal fuel, 15gal water, gear, food, etc. Uncertain on weights but it is enough to load down the truck to require 30psi in the bags to bring it up to avoid hitting bumpstops on desert roads.
Just wanted to share my experience with the Dobinsons variables in 45mm lift height (220/269 combo). They raised my bone stock 1992 3FE about .75 inches, not 1.5-2” as advertised. I’ve measured them multiple times after 3 weeks of driving on them daily. I am de-flared and the hub-ww height is about 21-21.75 in front, and 21.5- 22 in rear. Before install the heights averaged 21”. I read stock height of about 20” with flares, 21” without (Though 3FE rumored to be taller).
I believe the 3fe is almost 600 lbs heavier than the 1fz so I’m guessing that is the culprit (door jam reads GVWR 6525, GAWR FRT 3305 RR 3970) Seems to me I need some heavy duty coils instead. Tapered or dual rate? I thought I did enough research before hand but...
If a 3fe owner wants 1.5-2 inches of lift above stock height and will be running with 24 extra gallons of fuel and a winch on stuck bumper what’s he to get for his DD/adventure rig? Bummer to have to squeeze them out again and pay for shipping but I don’t think spacers are going to cut it. Thoughts? I need some guidance here cause I didn’t get it right.
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Most, if not every, Dobinson spring has lifted the installers vehicle more than advertised. Your report is out of the norm.Just wanted to share my experience with the Dobinsons variables in 45mm lift height (220/269 combo). They raised my bone stock 1992 3FE about .75 inches, not 1.5-2” as advertised. I’ve measured them multiple times after 3 weeks of driving on them daily. I am de-flared and the hub-ww height is about 21-21.75 in front, and 21.5- 22 in rear. Before install the heights averaged 21”. I read stock height of about 20” with flares, 21” without (Though 3FE rumored to be taller).
I believe the 3fe is almost 600 lbs heavier than the 1fz so I’m guessing that is the culprit (door jam reads GVWR 6525, GAWR FRT 3305 RR 3970) Seems to me I need some heavy duty coils instead. Tapered or dual rate? I thought I did enough research before hand but...
If a 3fe owner wants 1.5-2 inches of lift above stock height and will be running with 24 extra gallons of fuel and a winch on stuck bumper what’s he to get for his DD/adventure rig? Bummer to have to squeeze them out again and pay for shipping but I don’t think spacers are going to cut it. Thoughts? I need some guidance here cause I didn’t get it right.
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Just wanted to share my experience with the Dobinsons variables in 45mm lift height (220/269 combo). They raised my bone stock 1992 3FE about .75 inches, not 1.5-2” as advertised. I’ve measured them multiple times after 3 weeks of driving on them daily. I am de-flared and the hub-ww height is about 21-21.75 in front, and 21.5- 22 in rear. Before install the heights averaged 21”. I read stock height of about 20” with flares, 21” without (Though 3FE rumored to be taller).
I believe the 3fe is almost 600 lbs heavier than the 1fz so I’m guessing that is the culprit (door jam reads GVWR 6525, GAWR FRT 3305 RR 3970) Seems to me I need some heavy duty coils instead. Tapered or dual rate? I thought I did enough research before hand but...
If a 3fe owner wants 1.5-2 inches of lift above stock height and will be running with 24 extra gallons of fuel and a winch on stuck bumper what’s he to get for his DD/adventure rig? Bummer to have to squeeze them out again and pay for shipping but I don’t think spacers are going to cut it. Thoughts? I need some guidance here cause I didn’t get it right.
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That's what I feel too. The lift height does look correct, as compared to this guy too, running 2" coils front and rear with stock size tires, although heavier load coils to suit the early engine and rear swing out on the backFrom you numbers, it sounds like your rig was tall to start and the Dobinsons gave you the height they advertised. (Very close to what OME 2" mediums gave me) How much more height do you want, in terms of center to hub measurement? If it's less than an inch, I'd just get a quality spacer set.
Your paint looks good, btw.
As a reference for others, I measured the flare body holes and distance on flare b/w stud and bottom. According to my measurements:
the rear flares hang down 15 mm (95mm: hole to fender rim, 110 stud to bottom of flare at center hole)
the front flares hang down 5-10 mm, (they are curved a bit) spanning 30mm hole to fender bottom and 40 stud to flare bottom
Dobinson Springs (Front) | Free spring height (mm) | Spring rate (lbs) | Part Number |
4” lift Flexi | 565mm RH & 567mm LH | 182 - 275 lbs | C59-614V |
5” lift - Liner, no extra load | 615mm RH & 625mm LH | 235 lbs | C59-444 |
3” lift Tapered | 605mm RH & 615mm LH | 314 - 342 lbs | C97-144VT |
Dobinson Springs (Rear) | Free spring height (mm) | Spring rate (lbs) | Part Number |
4” lift Flexi | 570mm RH & 580mm LH | 148 - 275 lbs | C59-615V |
4” lift HHD | 545mm RH & 555mm LH | 318 lbs | C59-313 |
4” lift HD | 520mm RH 530mm LH | 274 lbs | C59-309 |
3” lift Tapered | 535mm RH 545mm LH | 285 - 342 lbs | C95-145VT |
Darren @AutoCraft Aus thank you for sharing the rate of Woody's 80 series 50mm front Patrol coils in this thread post here Slinky Long Travel Suspension Systems of 160/240 lbs.
With such a low COG and tall free height that allows the longer 28" shock, I believe this to be a true little hidden jem.
It seems to be more like a Intermediate coil rather than a HD coil though. To suite lightly loaded 80s, does Slinky offer a true 50mm rear intermediate coil?