Charcoal Canister Replacement Option

[barely]

Just bought the nicest used one I could find on eBay - $200 - claimed 171,000 miles on it.

Beware of used canisters. If the activated charcoal gets gasoline soaked, it becomes useless. A previous owner of my LC100 would top off the tank which led to gas contamination of the canister. I’m not sure how to check the state of the charcoal on a used one.

 

[Trapper50cal]

Beware of used canisters. If the activated charcoal gets gasoline soaked, it becomes useless. A previous owner of my LC100 would top off the tank which led to gas contamination of the canister. I’m not sure how to check the state of the charcoal on a used one.

The only way is by weight which obviously is pretty difficult to get a eBay vendor to do. Yeah, I know it's a risk.

 

[hoser]

Where did you find a new Vapor Canister 77740-60390? I have looked everywhere.
Thanks.

RockAuto has new ones for $695 (98-02) branded as "Wells" but made in Japan. Could possibly be reboxed OE....

 

[Trapper50cal]

Well, it looks great...we'll see if it was a great value or if I threw $200 down the garbage disposal.
None of the hoses are cracked, sensor and valve look great. As long as it wasn't saturated, should be good.

 

[Trapper50cal]

Okay,

Well I swapped it in and initial testing reveals that it now starts first crank every time, instead of immediately on very first start of the morning and more difficulty/cranking throughout the day AND it's not building gas tank pressure anymore. So I'd say that I got what I paid for and probably bought myself between 60K-100K miles...time will tell.

This used one I bought off eBay was from a 1999 Lexus LX470 that was built 10/98 which is within 30 days of when mine came off the line and the seller claimed the Lexus had 171K on the odo so at this point I have no reason to think otherwise.

So I guess my advice at this early juncture is if you're going to buy used, pay a little more for a seller with great feedback and who states the miles on the used part, trying to get the lowest mile example you can find.

It'll still be a little bit of a crap shoot as to whether the part has been flooded out with gas or not.

Edit: The eBay seller of this item was toyspowersports and has a rating of 99.3% with 61K items sold.

 

[barely]

Okay,

Well I swapped it in and initial testing reveals that it now starts first crank every time, instead of immediately on very first start of the morning and more difficulty/cranking throughout the day AND it's not building gas tank pressure anymore. So I'd say that I got what I paid for and probably bought myself between 60K-100K miles...time will tell.

This used one I bought off eBay was from a 1999 Lexus LX470 that was built 10/98 which is within 30 days of when mine came off the line and the seller claimed the Lexus had 171K on the odo so at this point I have no reason to think otherwise.

So I guess my advice at this early juncture is if you're going to buy used, pay a little more for a seller with great feedback and who states the miles on the used part, trying to get the lowest mile example you can find.

It'll still be a little bit of a crap shoot as to whether the part has been flooded out with gas or not.

Edit: The eBay seller of this item was toyspowersports and has a rating of 99.3% with 61K items sold.

Did you check the weight of the replacement? Wells has theirs listed as 5.2190lbs

 

[Trapper50cal]

Did you check the weight of the replacement? Wells has theirs listed as 5.2190lbs

No scale for that but hand to hand test, I thought the old one was slightly heavier. That could be wishful confirmation bias.

 

[DTCsk8er]

Okay,

Well I swapped it in and initial testing reveals that it now starts first crank every time, instead of immediately on very first start of the morning and more difficulty/cranking throughout the day AND it's not building gas tank pressure anymore. So I'd say that I got what I paid for and probably bought myself between 60K-100K miles...time will tell.

This used one I bought off eBay was from a 1999 Lexus LX470 that was built 10/98 which is within 30 days of when mine came off the line and the seller claimed the Lexus had 171K on the odo so at this point I have no reason to think otherwise.

So I guess my advice at this early juncture is if you're going to buy used, pay a little more for a seller with great feedback and who states the miles on the used part, trying to get the lowest mile example you can find.

It'll still be a little bit of a crap shoot as to whether the part has been flooded out with gas or not.

Edit: The eBay seller of this item was toyspowersports and has a rating of 99.3% with 61K items sold.

My 2000 LC is doing exactly this; first crank of the morning perfect. Random starts while warm (grocery store for example) it will putter and die, and then crank and stumble alive on 2nd crank. Pressure in the tank when I remove the cap for filling..

Looks like the Tundra option is out of stock everywhere. May end up going used like you, or cutting mine open.

 

[Trapper50cal]

My 2000 LC is doing exactly this; first crank of the morning perfect. Random starts while warm (grocery store for example) it will putter and die, and then crank and stumble alive on 2nd crank. Pressure in the tank when I remove the cap for filling..

Looks like the Tundra option is out of stock everywhere. May end up going used like you, or cutting mine open.

Now that I have two, I'm thinking of cutting my old one open and replacing the charcoal as well...gotta get my hands on a plastic welder.

 

[ChroniclerCruiser]

The part number I used was 77740-33062 but I see there may be another one listed for late 90s rav4's, look very similar. There's also a Dorman one for the es300 that claims to be reverse engineered from the original, $190 currently. Obviously the Denso part is preferred but nice to know that if these run out in the supply chain there's at least a Chinese knockoff that might be available.

My Camry Charcoal Canister arrived yesterday afternoon; hopefully I can get around to installing it this week and seeing what improvements I get on all the same symptoms. As an aside, if someone does order it, just know that Impex will pack the box with- *checks notes* -20 Honda Lawnmower Gas Caps as packing peanuts...

 

[skookum]

My Camry Charcoal Canister arrived yesterday afternoon; hopefully I can get around to installing it this week and seeing what improvements I get on all the same symptoms. As an aside, if someone does order it, just know that Impex will pack the box with- *checks notes* -20 Honda Lawnmower Gas Caps as packing peanuts...

Did it end up fitting? Any issues with the connectors from the original canister?

 

[ChroniclerCruiser]

I'm so sorry, I forgot to update this thread as well!

Here's the write-up I made:

Post in thread '2000LC Replacement Charcoal Canister Options

To summarize: it fits, but you'll need to order one extra hose and repurpose some of the hoses on the Camry canister in order to make up for the fittings being at a 90° offset. No issues whatsoever, and the first guy to do the swap is also very happy with his results.

 

[TEQAdventure]

I just wanted to add that I took the gamble on a used OEM cannister for my 98 LX470. I had had the check engine on for years, and the used canister fixed the issue and the light is now gone. I bought mine off of eBay.

 

[menancyandsam]

Just arrived from ebay OEM new '03 canister, will report back after install.
Will weigh both.

On my bathroom scale they were about 1lb difference.
$333 from Ebay

 

[90WT]

Well, I just ordered up a new 77740-0C050. It looks like it is 4.7L and 5.7L 2007-2013 Tundra application. Photos look exactly like the 2006 LX470 version 77740-60450 except for the mounting brackets, which I hope will be able to be removed and swapped between them. Ebay cost for non-OEM is $182 shipped. Ebay 77740-0C050

Fingers crossed this fixes my intermittent vapor lock issues.
(At time of writing, Lexus list price for vapor cann is $1075. With many Toyota parts dealers offering at $675ish.)

 

[baltistyle]

I recently picked up brand new OEM canister for about $430 from eBay for my 2006. It shipped from Japan and was genuine. I have been following prices and right now it seems there’s a lot of sellers with some price drops. Perhaps the supply is back up.

 

[MattLexus]

I followed @LostAfrican write up on how to run the ac Delco 215-153 canister and it immediately fixed my warm starting issue, for 9 days. Now it’s coming back. For those of you who did this method, did you have this issue? Did I do something wrong? I did get a knock off canister from Amazon, not a genuine ac delco one. I didn’t think it would matter but maybe I’m wrong?

 

[baltistyle]

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I followed @LostAfrican write up on how to run the ac Delco 215-153 canister and it immediately fixed my warm starting issue, for 9 days. Now it’s coming back. For those of you who did this method, did you have this issue? Did I do something wrong? I did get a knock off canister from Amazon, not a genuine ac delco one. I didn’t think it would matter but maybe I’m wrong?

I think one would ask what the diagnostics of each part of the system show… how does that valve work, how do the other valves work, how’s all the other parts of the system…

 

[Dirt J]

Is it throwing a code or just the warm no start?

 

[90WT]

Well, I just ordered up a new 77740-0C050. It looks like it is 4.7L and 5.7L 2007-2013 Tundra application. Photos look exactly like the 2006 LX470 version 77740-60450 except for the mounting brackets, which I hope will be able to be removed and swapped between them. Ebay cost for non-OEM is $182 shipped. Ebay 77740-0C050

Fingers crossed this fixes my intermittent vapor lock issues.
(At time of writing, Lexus list price for vapor cann is $1075. With many Toyota parts dealers offering at $675ish.)

Confirming these two units are identical (on the outside at least).
New can weighed 5lbs on the dot. Old can at 6lbs on the dot. (Weighed without the mounting brackets).
Mounting brackets are different. 10mm screws and you can swap the brackets from the old can to new can.
Started up and throwing no Codes. We'll see what the long term has in store.