80 series Slinky/ICON Long Travel Suspension officially coming to the U.S.A.
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Darren can you give me the specs (collapsed and extended length)on the stage 1 shock being sold with the Redline 3" kit? thanks
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The intermediate kit would work very well with that set up, as your truck isnt very heavy heavy in relative terms. As an example Woody wanted a bit less height so we put the intermediates into Gretchen so it works the height and carries his weight pretty well, and rides and handles very nicely.
The intermediate rears are designed for a vehicle that has 450lb constant load of accessories or equipment, like bars and drawers, and with a 30mm [1 1/4"] rake, means the coil will drop aprox 12mm [1/2" per 220 lb of extra weight as you load it to go wheeling or touring.
This would mean you could add on top of the accessories, another 600lb of gear before the vehicle is back to level all round, which is where a loaded truck should be, to keep the rear roll centre down when heavy.
The heavy duty coils would allow for 900lb constant load and drop 8mm [just over 1/4"] per 220 lb of gear added, so another 800lb of gear before going to even all road.
The only bump stop is 30mm [1 1/4"] longer rear, but yes can do long travel [not slinky] without bump spacer.
GWN, the coils are staggered and when installed suit the LHD version when installed to suit.
Does SNOWY lean ?
Probably a little when I am driving
Are these 12" travel shocks that come with this kit?
bueler, bueler....
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These guys have so much going on. Cruise Moab, I think Darren is flying to the USA now as I type. Just be patient, most of the general answers are in these threads already. I agree though, they should be more organized. Both have more things going on than just 80 series stuff. I'm just saying it will come together soon enough.
GW Nugget is right, both Justin and Darren are pretty buried right now. I've been speaking with both of them and I'll be helping out with some of the organizational stuff and getting more info here to the forums. With Cruise Moab happening next week its going to be a hectic week but I would expect that things will cool off a bit and more info etc will be available after that.
If you are using caster plates, than go all OEM with the bushings.
What is better about the Autocraft Slinky/Icon set-up when compared to the IconVehicleDynamics Kit... specifically the stage 1 kits by each brand?
That was something I wondered too about the plates. From all the reading I have done I would guess Slee caster plates? Would most agree with this? I really like the concept of the Landtank plates but they seem to be more adequate for 4" of lift from the looks of it.
The Slinky Long Travel is designed for *overland* style trucks, many of which are carrying more weight with bumpers, winches, fridges, drawers etc.
The shocks are also custom valved by Autocraft for the Slinky system with that kind of use in mind.
From the information I've seen the Icon system is not designed for a lot of extra weight.
From my experience of the past week with the Slinkys it worked extremely well in Moab, and driving the truck unloaded the past few days on the road is slightly firmer but still really nice.
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I have ran a fair amount of different suspension combos on an 80, OME mediums and heavies, MT 2" spacers and OME spacers. OME shocks and Fox shocks. And finally Slee coils. I couldn't find much in the way of OME I liked but once I fitted Slee coils with Fox shocks I was pretty happy. Although I feel the truck needs to retain the sway bars.
Considering the coil can unseat and not seat correctly in big flex situations I see nothing wrong with a retainer, in fact it remedies this problem. And that is all it is meant to do.
I think it is great we are getting some other choices but a soft slinky coil is of no use to me. My truck is to damn heavy and that will not change. In fact the Slee HDP are the only thing that works for me in the back besides an air bag which I have not tried and don't want to try. If these Slinky coils can handle weight I might be interested but the thing is I am happy with the Slee's and tired of trying different suspension. Once I get something I am happy with I tend to not make anymore changes.
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Considering the coil can unseat and not seat correctly in big flex situations I see nothing wrong with a retainer, in fact it remedies this problem. And that is all it is meant to do.
I think it is great we are getting some other choices but a soft slinky coil is of no use to me. My truck is to damn heavy and that will not change. In fact the Slee HDP are the only thing that works for me in the back besides an air bag which I have not tried and don't want to try. If these Slinky coils can handle weight I might be interested but the thing is I am happy with the Slee's and tired of trying different suspension. Once I get something I am happy with I tend to not make anymore changes.
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I can understand sticking with something that works for you. Kinda like the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" idea. At the same time, someone may not know what they're missing until they experience it. That was definitely the case for me. The OME stuff I had *worked* and I had no real complaints because I didn't know what I was missing. I took a few people for a ride with the new slinkys during Cruise Moab and every one of them said "ok, I'm getting some" within less than a minute.
I wouldn't call the Slinky coils "soft" by any stretch. The name may sound like they're soft, flexy rockcrawling coils, but that's not how I'd describe them. No doubt about it, they flex well and the ride is the best I've personally had in an 80. But keep in mind these have been around for quite a while already in Australia and they are targeted to trucks with WAY more going on than the average US built truck. They're meant to handle much heavier loads than most of us are dealing with. The Stage 1 shocks that I have now are possibly a tad soft on really big hits at high speed and maybe with very heavy loads, but the CDC shocks with adjustability have a wide range to tune the ride, load management. I'm hoping to upgrade sometime down the road to gain the adjustability. The fact that these are being used on 9000lb + trucks makes me think that load capacity is not the issue with these.
Darren mentioned it above, for every 220lbs (100kilos) the suspension will drop 1/2" (12mm). That's pretty good to me. Better than any I've had previously at least.
Treeroot rode in darrens rig and said i bought the wrong shocks from you...i should've gotten your slinkys, not the ome
Treeroot was drunk.Treeroot rode in darrens rig and said i bought the wrong shocks from you...i should've gotten your slinkys, not the ome
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You tried Slee coils yet? The difference for me with Slee from OME was night and day. That and the Fox shocks I was running over OME shocks. I am sticking with the Slee HDP in the back but going to King shocks, getting rid of coil springs in the front and going c/o's.
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