What have you done to your Land Cruiser this week? (28 Viewers)

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I like the archery form. You obviously have taught her well. Like 40’s, archery can be enjoyed for a lifetime.
Thanks all.

I was pleasantly surprised to find that she really enjoys it. When she asked for a bow for her birthday, I was worried it was a "be like dad thing" that wouldn't last. Instead she often asks me to shoot with her.

I'm taking her archery elk hunting in September. If we get into them, she's going to have a blast. If I zip one, she'll likely demand to go hunting immediately!
 
Getting ready to strip this custom 40 build to the frame and start the build process for our good friend and repeat customer Owl Vans Engineering.

Roadster shop chassis, LS3, TR-4050 5 speed and Atlas T-case.

Aqualu body

Custom accessories and fabrication by Trail Tailor.

Jason
TRAIL TAILOR

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Thanks all.

I was pleasantly surprised to find that she really enjoys it. When she asked for a bow for her birthday, I was worried it was a "be like dad thing" that wouldn't last. Instead she often asks me to shoot with her.

I'm taking her archery elk hunting in September. If we get into them, she's going to have a blast. If I zip one, she'll likely demand to go hunting immediately!
My almost 7 year old daughter wants a bow; keeps getting keep junk ones from family members but I think it’s time for a decent one.
 
Knuckles, new brakes, vented rotors, transmission, and transfer case oil change complete.

Took it out and went through the drive-through. Conversation with the drive-through guy went like this.

Guy: Oh hey, nice Jeep!
Me: Thanks. (not really interested in explaining its an FJ)
Guy: Do you work on it?
Me: Yeah. Just finished changing some of the fluids.
Guy: Cool! Does it have a turbo in it?
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I’ve had numerous people tell me I should put a turbo or a pro charger on my Chevelle. People that have never even ridden in it. Because everyone that has ridden, comes out sheet white and smelling like burnt tires and can’t really talk.
 
1962-1990 Siamese F , F1.5 , 2F 3F / 3F-E ...

- this is the ONLY Fully Synthetic 20W50 on the market today that meets all API certifications and more and more importantly

- ALL owner's manual VISCOSITY Chart reequipments for SUMMER driving conditions in the LOWER 48

- it is 100% SAFE for catalytic converters too ! ZERO Zinc and ZERO Phosphates


- the Rocket Science is real here , and so is your paper print media oem FSM and Glove box owners manual too ...

- please feel free to faq check the above , I poured more then a few hours of live phone time a email time getting the tech. Here there. Is indeed tons of very confusing and misleading info out there especially on the whole API certification and the ZINC rich zddp info too , related to catalyst catalytic converters if u have to run one ..

Brands like Amsoil and Royal Purple self certify there Own API

And to be completely Frank here if anyone thinks the concrete facts that a real fully Synthetic motor oil is light years ahead of a conventional type …….

Well , look at all 2023 model year toyota Vehicle platforms and engines sold at your local toyota dealer ….,all require and spec. Fully Synthetic motor oil …,,,



THIS IS THE WAY ....


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I was referring more towards the lack of zinc and if it is needed in out F series engine. Obviously, we don't care about cats because we are too old for them. I have to wonder when our service manuals were written synthetic oils didn't exist, but I beat all traditional oils contained zinc. I'll keep running the synthetic. Just an interesting discussion to me.
 
Yes. The oils back then had zinc to lubricate cam and lifters, and gas had lead in it to lubricate the valve seats. Most conventional(dino) oil these days have pulled back on zinc. Some oils have more zinc than others. Some folks add zinc. Typically most synthetics don't have zinc. The individual engine design sort of dictates what should be used.
 
I was referring more towards the lack of zinc and if it is needed in out F series engine. Obviously, we don't care about cats because we are too old for them. I have to wonder when our service manuals were written synthetic oils didn't exist, but I beat all traditional oils contained zinc. I'll keep running the synthetic. Just an interesting discussion to me.
Wander over to an old tractor forum some time and ask about oil. The original spec for most tractors was based on whale oil. Opinions abound. My main recommendation is that there is oil and that you change it on some reasonable interval. Ideally that oil has a decent viscosity for the weather and the amount of clearance built into the engine bearing surfaces.
 
I was referring more towards the lack of zinc and if it is needed in out F series engine. Obviously, we don't care about cats because we are too old for them. I have to wonder when our service manuals were written synthetic oils didn't exist, but I beat all traditional oils contained zinc. I'll keep running the synthetic. Just an interesting discussion to me.
Yes. The oils back then had zinc to lubricate cam and lifters, and gas had lead in it to lubricate the valve seats. Most conventional(dino) oil these days have pulled back on zinc. Some oils have more zinc than others. Some folks add zinc. Typically most synthetics don't have zinc. The individual engine design sort of dictates what should be used.


- in my more then exhausting fact-finding mission research on this topic whole i learned more than a few very relevant facts

- that are intriguing as hell , and ones that were also absolutely
mis-represented by that particular Fully Synthetic motor oils brand companies official web sites , and also HUMAN voice live TECH. phone support calls i made to them too ...!

- it was in no uncertain terms a eye-opening learning experience i am glad i found myself knee deep into , all for one single reason to begin , and find out what is the best Fully Synthetic Motor Oil for my 5/89 FJ62 with its super low mileage original 3F-E , that also met the krystal klear summer Viscosity Chart in my factory owners manual and FSM too of the REQUIRED 20W50 ....


- i did a back peddle in time to the 1962 FJ40 Siamese F Engine and moved forward year by year from there , F1.5 , 2F , 3F carb ( first introduced in 1984 ) and finally my 3F-E

- the fundamental areas of focus such as the SOLID Lifters , Cam Lobes , Solid Push Rods , Adjustable Rocker Arms to Valve tappets clearances etc, are same in kind , ...

- i do not know the whole Leaded Gas era Valve Seats topic , because that is the one topic here i did have going on ?

- i found more than a few 20W50 fully Synthetic Motor Oils commonly available at my local NAPA store , NONE of any kind or band at auto zone or advance , NOR could they special order a 20W50 of any kind at all ?

- one younger dude at advance , maybe early 20's ish told me he had never seen or heard on 20W50 motor oil before 🤣

- as wet my Carhart shorts laughing as that was , it also made me think WHY ?

- well i guess it's been a HUGE time window since a certain % of vehicles on american roads and there owner operators actually shopped for it and purchased it at a level that demanded auto parts stores justified carrying and stocking it at some level ?

- i learned that California , Arizona , and parts of URBAN Colorado around Denver , Colorado Springs , and one other high population density of registered vehicles still require yearly SMOG inspections , and that includes the good working order of all original factory Emissions parts such as the Catalytic Converters topic being present and doing its Job to a standard of air quality too ....

- this is where the ZINC and Phosphates / ZDDP additives are GOOD for older Land Cruisers as its commonly discussed here , BUT a 1/75 - 1990 and there Cats , they are required to still run NO F'ing WAY !


- as far as the ZINC RICH ZDDP Fully Synthetic motor oils out there , Amsoil , Royal Purple etc one HUGE RED flag became very real and apparent , NONE are actually API Certified in any way , they state on the back of the bottles that they meet all that API stuff , currently we are at the SP rating in 2023 , well if you SELF- CERTIFY your own brand or motor oil that you conjure up and brew ? then i guess you can claim anything you like on your own bottle too !

- the ONLY single Fully Synthetic 20w50 motor oil i could find that was 100% API SP Rated and Certified by the American Petroleum Institute was also the ONLY one that was NOT a intended to be ZINC and Phosphate rich ZDDP formula ...

- both Amsoil and Royal Purple TECH. Line customer service Reps , told me flat out 100% they were just that ?
Amsoil dude also made a point more then once that his bottles lacked the twin Circles DONUT official API logo and specs it meets like the
SP grade etc , because all the brands that do have that official independent entity certification LOGO own a share or stake of ownership at one level or another of the American Petroleum Institute ?

- i called them and FAQ checked that claim , it's 100% Bull SH#T false in every way .....

- so my final conclusion is as follows :

- if you DO NOT have Cats still in place on a 1/75 - 1990 , or like in the GOOD SOLID point by @fj40fillet talks about , never had them to begin with , 1962 - 12/74 .....

- i would personally absolutely only use the same exact Valvoline Full Synthetic 20w50 Advanced i am NOW changing out on GHOST , then ADD my own preferred Zinc type ZDDP additive to it..

this way you achieve the best possible full synthetic 20w50 correct Summer Blend that meets all the Viscosity Chart spec,s , that is also API Certified too , combined with your Zinc ZDDP additive , you have a product keeping your Vintage Land Cruiser internal Engine Moving parts protected to a level that is basically a clever Preservation step , will freeze lifters and cam lobes , valve tappet normal wear and tear at its current state of being for the foreseeable future , if you use it for the foreseeable future ...

- the unique comment came up here above and requires Technical proven Science based answer to the best of my ability and current knowledge of the HOW and WHY i will touch on here ..

- once again @fj40fillet
asks a interesting question that's answer is fairy short and simple here to dip into ....

- his quote : " have to wonder when our service manuals were written synthetic oils didn't exist... "

- YES , that is correct , MOBIL 1 came on the scene via PEP BOYS in the very early 1990's , they first initially offered only : 10w30 , 10w40 , and 20w50 ..........5w30 was also added to the line up soon there after

- the use of regular conventional motor oil versus a API certified FULL Synthetic , such as my example product i personally do use , Valvoline ADVANCE that also comes in 10w30 , & 5w30 also ...fyi

- has and is scientifically proven to reduce the normal average driving conditions wear and tear factor to all 4-stroke internal combustion engine moving parts ...... that key point might be a good topic for a stand alone TECH Thread for sure ! :idea:

- all 4 above were and are still API certified from day 1 , and DO NOT have the zinc rich formula topic involved ....
since then 20w50 has been phased out approx. 5-8 years ago now , i recall clearly that day i went to my local NAPA and was told that fact , because i had always used that in summer
driving season , and switched to 10w40 at Fall Maintenance . the mid atlantic climate here , supports those 2 different viscosities as the optimum choice / motor oil lubrication protection level . This tech above and how it applies to my climate zone does absolutely apply to all 1962 - 1990 Land Cruiser Gasoline F series engines ....

FAQ check your various model years glove box owners manuals please , this is good long-term internal Engine moving parts preservation related in a simple yes or no , black and white approach ...


THIS IS THE WAY ...
 
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- in my more then exhausting fact-finding mission research on this topic whole i learned more than a few very relevant facts

- that are intriguing as hell , and ones that were also absolutely
mis-represented by that particular Fully Synthetic motor oils brand companies official web sites , and also HUMAN voice live TECH. phone support calls i made to them too ...!

- it was in no uncertain terms a eye-opening learning experience i am glad i found myself knee deep into , all for one single reason to begin , and find out what is the best Fully Synthetic Motor Oil for my 5/89 FJ62 with its super low mileage original 3F-E , that also met the krystal klear summer Viscosity Chart in my factory owners manual and FSM too of the REQUIRED 20W50 ....


- i did a back peddle in time to the 1962 FJ40 Siamese F Engine and moved forward year by year from there , F1.5 , 2F , 3F carb ( first introduced in 1984 ) and finally my 3F-E

- the fundamental areas of focus such as the SOLID Lifters , Cam Lobes , Solid Push Rods , Adjustable Rocker Arms to Valve tappets clearances etc, are same in kind , ...

- i do not know the whole Leaded Gas era Valve Seats topic , because that is the one topic here i did have going on ?

- i found more than a few 20W50 fully Synthetic Motor Oils commonly available at my local NAPA store , NONE of any kind or band at auto zone or advance , NOR could they special order a 20W50 of any kind at all ?

- one younger dude at advance , maybe early 20's ish told me he had never seen or heard on 20W50 motor oil before 🤣

- as wet my Carhart shorts laughing as that was , it also made me think WHY ?

- well i guess it's been a HUGE time window since a certain % of vehicles on american roads and there owner operators actually shopped for it and purchased it at a level that demanded auto parts stores justified carrying and stocking it at some level ?

- i learned that California , Arizona , and parts of URBAN Colorado around Denver , Colorado Springs , and one other high population density of registered vehicles still require yearly SMOG inspections , and that includes the good working order of all original factory Emissions parts such as the Catalytic Converters topic being present and doing its Job to a standard of air quality too ....

- this is where the ZINC and Phosphates / ZDDP additives are GOOD for older Land Cruisers as its commonly discussed here , BUT a 1/75 - 1990 and there Cats , they are required to still run NO F'ing WAY !


- as far as the ZINC RICH ZDDP Fully Synthetic motor oils out there , Amsoil , Royal Purple etc one HUGE RED flag became very real and apparent , NONE are actually API Certified in any way , they state on the back of the bottles that they meet all that API stuff , currently we are at the SP rating in 2023 , well if you SELF- CERTIFY your own brand or motor oil that you conjure up and brew ? then i guess you can claim anything you like on your own bottle too !

- the ONLY single Fully Synthetic 20w50 motor oil i could find that was 100% API SP Rated and Certified by the American Petroleum Institute was also the ONLY one that was NOT a intended to be ZINC and Phosphate rich ZDDP formula ...

- both Amsoil and Royal Purple TECH. Line customer service Reps , told me flat out 100% they were just that ?
Amsoil dude also made a point more then once that his bottles lacked the twin Circles DONUT official API logo and specs it meets like the
SP grade etc , because all the brands that do have that official independent entity certification LOGO own a share or stake of ownership at one level or another of the American Petroleum Institute ?

- i called them and FAQ checked that claim , it's 100% Bull SH#T false in every way .....

- so my final conclusion is as follows :

- if you DO NOT have Cats still in place on a 1/75 - 1990 , or like in the GOOD SOLID point by @fj40fillet talks about , never had them to begin with , 1962 - 12/74 .....

- i would personally absolutely only use the same exact Valvoline Full Synthetic 20w50 Advanced i am NOW changing out on GHOST , then ADD my own preferred Zinc type ZDDP additive to it..


this way you achieve the best possible full synthetic 20w50 correct Summer Blend that meets all the Viscosity Chart spec,s , that is also API Certified too , combined with your Zinc ZDDP additive , you have a product keeping your Vintage Land Cruiser internal Engine Moving parts protected to a level that is basically a clever Preservation step , will freeze lifters and cam lobes , valve tappet normal wear and tear at its current state of being for the foreseeable future , if you use it for the foreseeable future ...

- the unique comment came up here above and requires Technical proven Science based answer and

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Lead was never intended to lubricate valves/seats. Tetraethyl lead was developed and added to increase octane. Was there a fringe benefit to the valves? That is subjective. Lead, in solid form is pretty safe. All this crap about lead paint is scare tactics. TEL was put in automotive fuel for 60 years and this lead was vaporized and millions of tons released into the global atmosphere. The entire world was breathing in lead. This is the exposure to lead we've been subject to.

As for diesel lubricant in gas engines, it is designed for engines that operate at low rpm and have double or more the bearing surface area of gasoline engines. It has half the film strength as performance gasoline engine oils, precisely because it doesn't need to have it.
 
Lead was never intended to lubricate valves/seats. Tetraethyl lead was developed and added to increase octane. Was there a fringe benefit to the valves? That is subjective. Lead, in solid form is pretty safe. All this crap about lead paint is scare tactics. TEL was put in automotive fuel for 60 years and this lead was vaporized and millions of tons released into the global atmosphere. The entire world was breathing in lead. This is the exposure to lead we've been subject to.

As for diesel lubricant in gas engines, it is designed for engines that operate at low rpm and have double or more the bearing surface area of gasoline engines. It has half the film strength as performance gasoline engine oils, precisely because it doesn't need to have it.
True that there were millions of tonnes of lead released, but the problem was the vastly greater concentration in urban areas, notably impacting brain development in children.
The concentration of lead in children has fallen hugely since the removal of lead in fuel and the removal of lead based paints from households - kids chew everything.
I wouldn't say it is BS.
 
Getting ready to strip this custom 40 build to the frame and start the build process for our good friend and repeat customer Owl Vans Engineering.

Roadster shop chassis, LS3, TR-4050 5 speed and Atlas T-case.

Aqualu body

Custom accessories and fabrication by Trail Tailor.

Jason
TRAIL TAILOR

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Strip to the frame and do what to it? Looks like it's complete already? Just curious, or are you just doing things like front bumper and winch mount, maybe some sliders, etc.

Also curious if that 2" ish body lift is staying.....my ass would be really chapped spending that much money on a custom chassis to have that hideous body to frame gap.
 
True that there were millions of tonnes of lead released, but the problem was the vastly greater concentration in urban areas, notably impacting brain development in children.
The concentration of lead in children has fallen hugely since the removal of lead in fuel and the removal of lead based paints from households - kids chew everything.
I wouldn't say it is BS.
Maybe the booger eaters, then, was it really the lead?
 

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