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Awesome, that is what I needed to know, I know on the cummins pumps that if you dont have pressure to them, they will burn up fast, I am learning
Toyota 4 Cylinder TURBO diesel Advice
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Glad to hear it! (and I see you're on the hunt for the 2LT-E manifold/turbo setup...)
Rosco is correct in that you don't need a pump aside from the engine driven IP. You do need an external fuel filter, with a priming pump. The US spec Toyota diesels have one (you might be able to find one in a junkyard), or you could use a Racor.
The 3L should have glow plugs, and be 12V (it's JDM--the engine you are buying?)
Friday eh? That's quick!
Dan
Rosco is correct in that you don't need a pump aside from the engine driven IP. You do need an external fuel filter, with a priming pump. The US spec Toyota diesels have one (you might be able to find one in a junkyard), or you could use a Racor.
The 3L should have glow plugs, and be 12V (it's JDM--the engine you are buying?)
Friday eh? That's quick!
Dan
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Well I got the engine!, I think I found the original primer pump/fulter housing on Ebay in Australia, since I didnt get one with it, yes it was a JDM engine I got actually from Soshin Trading in California, I see the glow plugs installed, but unfortunately the wiring harness that goes to each individual glow plug is missing, how do the glow plugs work?, is the outer portion of the plug(the part that screws into the block) a ground, and the center part of the plug where the +12V should be applied for a few seconds via a momentary switch? If so, I dont know how I am going to fashion a connector to the top of the glow plug that is in there now, as it has a plastic type cap on it with no where to fasten a connector, except a factory style connector, I did find some aftermarket ones on Ebay too: Glow Plug Set Toyota 3L 4Runner Hilux Pickup Hiace Surf - eBay (item 400050801683 end time May-29-09 15:43:35 PDT), these look like they have small nuts on the top to where I could use crimp on style eyelets, and make my own harness? However they say they are 11 volts, will that harm them if I apply 12 volts to them?
Yes,the glow plug is grounded to the block. A single plastic coated busbar(metal strap) supplies power to the glow plugs.
The plastic cap on top is an insulator in case anything falls on them.
You can see the pastic caps and busbar on my 1HZ .It has "steps" in it to clear the head bolts and I think it may be made of copper. It has plastic coating,except where it touches the glow plug
The plastic cap on top is an insulator in case anything falls on them.
You can see the pastic caps and busbar on my 1HZ .It has "steps" in it to clear the head bolts and I think it may be made of copper. It has plastic coating,except where it touches the glow plug
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Ok that makes sense! Thanks rosco! mine has that busbar too, wasnt sure what that was for, now I know!, I have read from various places though that there is a possibility that I could have the "early" 6 or 7 volt glow plugs and that there is a resistor on the bottom side of the intake, I have seen a diagram of this, and there is a spot where a resistor could go, but no resister, I wonder if that means that I have the "later" 12V glow plugs already?
Pull a glow plug out and see what it is.I cant see the 3L as having anything other than 11v PT 151 on this list
Glowplugs Product 5
Glowplugs Product 5
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Well thanks to your advice about the busbar rosco, I energized it, energized the fuel cutoff switch, and then energized the starter solenoid, and it cranked over a few times.....then fired right up!, it sounds great!, I really appreciate your advice! Now all I have to research is how to get the alternator wired up right, as I am starting from scratch with the electrical in this buggy with a painless universal wiring harness, the alternators that I am used to using in my setups are GM "1 wire" alternators, but I cant do that with this one, as it has the built in vacuum pump for the brake master cylinder, so this could be interesting! ... But that will be later on I guess..
Its great fun starting them up out of the engine bay
If it starts and runs fine when cold ,it should be a good engine
Awesome. Glad to hear you've got the motor in your hands and at least clattering around. They really are simple that way.
FWIW: I very well may have the faux-lux in the Denver area early next month (like June 7 and 9) if you wanted to look at the turbo setup, and alternator wiring (it's not hard).
I'm not 100% going to drive up for that trip, but I am sure thinking about it...I'll keep you posted.
Dan
FWIW: I very well may have the faux-lux in the Denver area early next month (like June 7 and 9) if you wanted to look at the turbo setup, and alternator wiring (it's not hard).
I'm not 100% going to drive up for that trip, but I am sure thinking about it...I'll keep you posted.
Dan
FourBy4Toy,
I ran a Surf for over 200,000kms that was fitted with a 2LTE - the head was cracked when I bought it, I replaced it with a 3L head and it never let me down again. The 3L head is an improved design and is not so prone to cracking. I think the turbo you will be looking for is the CT20.
If you are looking for turbo parts I'd try the UK ebay - www.ebay.co.uk - these engines are common over here - they are used in seveal different applications.
Also, maybe for general diesel info try www.hiluxsurf.co.uk and ToyotaSurf Australia Site - diesel trucks are more common here than petrol ones.
The comments about the turbo not being much use when slow wheeling are spot on - you're never revving the engine enough for the turbo to be of any use.
Good luck with your build - it sounds interesting
I ran a Surf for over 200,000kms that was fitted with a 2LTE - the head was cracked when I bought it, I replaced it with a 3L head and it never let me down again. The 3L head is an improved design and is not so prone to cracking. I think the turbo you will be looking for is the CT20.
If you are looking for turbo parts I'd try the UK ebay - www.ebay.co.uk - these engines are common over here - they are used in seveal different applications.
Also, maybe for general diesel info try www.hiluxsurf.co.uk and ToyotaSurf Australia Site - diesel trucks are more common here than petrol ones.
The comments about the turbo not being much use when slow wheeling are spot on - you're never revving the engine enough for the turbo to be of any use.
Good luck with your build - it sounds interesting
From memory, that vacuum pump on the back of the alternator is there to energise? the VSV's (vacuum switching valves) that are used all over these mini trucks. If you look at some of these images you can pick out the hose that runs from the alternator, esp. pic #4, 18, 19 and 22 (black hose in lower part of pics)
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L series engines use a fuel-cut solenoid. The vac is more for the brake booster and A/C idle kick up system. Got my 3L from Soshin too. Just got it into the old '82, perfect fit the block is nearly identical to the 2LT block. I'm hoping I have better luck with the 3L, it seems to have a much better reputation than previous L engines. The L and the 2LT were both turds I can say from first hand experience.
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Absolutely!, shoot me an email at FourBy4Toy@aol.com before you come this way...if you do, and I would like to see your truck.
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I know it wont do much for the trails, I just like the sound of a turbo spooling up on the flat spots
Thanks for the links!
I will be posting pics as the build progresses, I just bought a FZJ80 rear to match the FZJ80 front for it today(both elocked), now need to order up the marlin dual cases!, gotta save up a little more for that though!
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UGHHH so Soshin Trading told me that the bellhousing that they were including with the engine would bolt right up to my "w56" transmission, well it turns out that the bellhousing I got is for the "R" series...aka 151f(turbo), and 150f V6 transmissions, so now that just put my project in a pickle, now either I have to source a turbo transmission(big bucks), or a v6 transmission 150F, then buy a Marlin converter to convert the transmission to gear driven cases, so I can run my doubler, I hope that I can work something out with Soshin, Jesus promised me that it would work with my W56 setup before I agreed to purchase the engine...... I have a w56 transmission that shifts like butter already!, anybody know where to source a bellhousing for the 2L/3L engines that will work with a W56 trans?, or anybody have a "turbo 86-87 R151F Transmission/Tcase" they want to part with?
This should be the same bellhousing for the domestically available 1984-'86 pickup equipped with the 2LT diesel engine. My old L50 transmission which was on the old 1L bolted right up to the 3L. Perhaps parouse some wrecking yards and you might get lucky. I'm pretty darn sure the '84-'86 US diesels were equipped with the W56 transmission.
This is true. let them do the legwork.
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I have...and they seem to be dragging their feet, and I am itching to get this going...I KNOW you know what I am talking about