Builds The White Trash - Chopped 80 tube bed AKA Proper Cupholders for Starbucks (3 Viewers)

[BlueCruiser84]

@Mieser there are no outter bump stops on this thing but the measurement between the upper most flat surface on the coil bucket (inside the spring) to the bump stop is 4.5".

Hope that helps.

 

[Mieser]

@Mieser there are no outter bump stops on this thing but the measurement between the upper most flat surface on the coil bucket (inside the spring) to the bump stop is 4.5".

Hope that helps.

It will, thank you. I will go measure the inner bumpstop height and compare.

 

[Mieser]

I did a few comparison measurements. I have pulled the rear springs and inner stops completely. I still have the factory outer bumpstops.

When the suspension is at full bump it is 3.5" from the metal inner bump pad to the mounting surface for the inner bumpstop.
The factory inner bump-stop is 6" tall.
Basically the inner bump-stop will compress 2.5" before the outer bump-stop would hit.

If I am thinking about this all kinda right.....you would have 7" of uptravel ( 4.5" free space plus 2.5" inner bump squish ) before the factory outer would have stopped the axle (they are still rubber).

I wonder if the factory inner bumpstops where designed as an overload spring of sorts?

I would be curious to know what weight was on the rear axle with the back chopped off....

I am just thinking out loud, don'd mind me.
Thanks again for the help.

 

[BlueCruiser84]

I did a few comparison measurements. I have pulled the rear springs and inner stops completely. I still have the factory outer bumpstops.

When the suspension is at full bump it is 3.5" from the metal inner bump pad to the mounting surface for the inner bumpstop.
The factory inner bump-stop is 6" tall.
Basically the inner bump-stop will compress 2.5" before the outer bump-stop would hit.

If I am thinking about this all kinda right.....you would have 7" of uptravel ( 4.5" free space plus 2.5" inner bump squish ) before the factory outer would have stopped the axle (they are still rubber).

I wonder if the factory inner bumpstops where designed as an overload spring of sorts?

I would be curious to know what weight was on the rear axle with the back chopped off....

I am just thinking out loud, don'd mind me.
Thanks again for the help.

The inner bump is probably supposed to slow the axle down before it smashes into the outter bumpstop.

I would love to know my corner weights, but I don't have any scales and I don't know anyone who does.

I know my stock 80 on stock springs with no third row sits at 22" center of hub to fender in the rear.

This 80 with stock springs, no spare, no third or second row, and no roof etc. sits at about 24". I don't know the stock spring rate but I thought I read it was around 180 lbs/in for LC springs? Maybe it was 150 lbs/in? assuming 150 that means I lost around 600 lbs?? Seems high.

 

[Mieser]

I heard 160ish for the 3rd row springs. The LX450 had non-3rd row springs which where 150ish.
That is what I found during my research.

 

[OGBeno]

I heard 160ish for the 3rd row springs. The LX450 had non-3rd row springs which where 150ish.
That is what I found during my research.

And these are all now discontinued from Toyota.

 

[Mieser]

And these are all now discontinued from Toyota.

And I already have a set of low mile LX450 springs from my chassis donor. I have the lightest OEM rear spring I think.
If I need anything lighter I will have to have custom springs made.

 

[BlueCruiser84]

 

[scottryana]

Oh s***, now you're just going crazy. I liked the other way so much better. Lol

 

[Heckraiser]

dang, nice corvette

 

[BlueCruiser84]

Oh s***, now you're just going crazy. I liked the other way so much better. Lol

I'm going to put the rear back together. I only took 8" out, but it looks like a lot more.

dang, nice corvette

Yea that's my dads. He likes going fast in sports cars. I like s***ty land cruisers.

 

[2fpower]

Lovin' it!

 

[BlueCruiser84]

Because everyone likes pictures.

First Cut

Second cut

I'm really losing my ass on this one...

Call him Robert. Rear end held in place with body mounts and a ratchet strap.

 

[2fpower]

John Bobbitt, just call him Bob. Half the car he used to be. That was what I named one of my part rig, as the PO cut off the top. It was funny until my 10 year old daughter asked "why".

 

[BlueCruiser84]

John Bobbitt, just call him Bob. Half the car he used to be. That was what I named one of my part rig, as the PO cut off the top. It was funny until my 10 year old daughter asked "why".

No easy way to explain that one!!

I've got to go back through your thread and look at what you did with the cage up front. I definitely don't want an Exo, but I'm 6'3" so I dont want to lose a bunch of headroom either.

You ran yours through the roof somehow, yea?

 

[2fpower]

Yeah, I am 6'2" also, so I put it inside the sheetmetal. I had to put a slight bend in the tube, but it was able to put it in there, then I welded it to the top of the windshield frame. If I was doing more crazy offroad, I would bring a return from that point down along the A pillar.

I then took a thin piece of metal and capped this over, and it looks really nice, with no edges to cut you.

Kelly

 

[2fpower]

The pics are on the other thread that has more details on the build. Basically, the tube will fit through, but if you look at yours there are a bunch of recessed areas, captured nuts, etc, that I cut out first.

55 days and 166 miles to SMORR 2013

 

[BlueCruiser84]

Ahhhh, so you didn't run it down to floor level. I remember trying to figure out how in the hell you threaded that piece of tube down to the floor. I guess I was having a moment....

That makes more sense. For me, though I won't be doing lots of hardcore wheeling, I think I need tube down the A-pillar. They were crushed so badly in the roll that I wouldn't trust them in a high speed incident.

Again, this isn't going to be a competition rig, but i would like it to be reasonably safe. I'm thinking a simple cage of 1.75" .120 wall around the front two seats mounted over the body mounts with a support bar running back to the rear wheel well area also mounted over a body mount. I figure that will be at least as safe as a stock fj40...

 

[canman]

Very nice. The corvette ain't too bad either.

 

[BlueCruiser84]

Got the rear end tacked back on. Then my welding mask wasn't dimming so I called it quits.

It lined up so nicely.