original po welded the battery tray on a different place I'm assuming..and it appears he sucked at welding. I bent a piece of scrap welding rod off this weld After the tray broke off after about three months of having this ride
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I know this is from two pages back but Ive seen this happen on much larger shafts in my past job. It is the result of a crappy hardening job (or a poorly spec'ed hardening requirement.) The part is essentially case hardened with the outside being hard and brittle with the inside remaining soft and low carbon. Doing destructive testing you can see the surface layer is totally different than the inner material. Add the right amount of torque and the inner material will deform and twist while the hardened outer material will do its own thing, in this case crack.FJ80 axle shaft on 35s with a LC Engineering 22re.
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Yea that's a unusual break.I know this is from two pages back but Ive seen this happen on much larger shafts in my past job. It is the result of a crappy hardening job (or a poorly spec'ed hardening requirement.) The part is essentially case hardened with the outside being hard and brittle with the inside remaining soft and low carbon. Doing destructive testing you can see the surface layer is totally different than the inner material. Add the right amount of torque and the inner material will deform and twist while the hardened outer material will do its own thing, in this case crack.
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View attachment 1742312not sure what happened except to say I had no clue at the time what an off road exhaust system would encompass… so i thought a professional business may. I asked around and I was told Mighty Muffler. (spelling? was told recently it was Mighty Muf’ler) So I don’t know however i do know this
this isn’t a system that i feel is conducive for a off roader who was just beginning.
this was put on about 15 years ago
its the only exhaust I’ve ever had put on..
Why is my post here? interesting question
I knew what I was getting into so I thought. I drove home after purchase for 2500.00 with really bad exhaust and a clanking as hell second gear..I almost couldn’t make the drive from Tucson to Phoenix. and definitely not by Freeway with such bad death wobble and with barely functioning improperly mounted Saginaw steering box…. an hours or so drive took more than 2 and half hours definitely not the i-10 but scenic route and on. something like that..but no freeway
got to phoenix the next day I started researching and about a month later decided to go to MM
got to MM in the morning they asked what I was looking for and going to do… and …they asked me how much I wanted to spend even BEFORE we even discussed anything.. that isn’t professionalism.
talk to me about what you can do for me then I will tell you what i can do for you and we go from there
Kinda. So you’d like you have your teeth done well how much money do you have? you see what I mean. Just does not roll off the tongue does it?
anyway i answered the first concern …I said moderate offloading to the lakes, Cove oven, Martinez mine and Crown King etc. and i need good exhaust
I did ask for it to be Dueled. what I didn’t know was about crossover pipes. X pipe H pipe etc. I didnt realize i could use a crossover, mount both mufflers on the drivers side….re-crossover one pipe and exit one pipe out the passenger side rear
so i got caught up with needing mufflers…however I was told No 3” for me cause I most likely didn’t need it, but by the looks of it I think they are 3”.
I was, however sold shorty block hugger headers, that I was told would Breath better than the Rams Horn exhaust i was using…and of coarse was told they would discount the headers by using my rams horn exhaust for average iron scrap weight…. HA what ever, if I only knew then..I wonder who paid a nice price for those header i originally had
told I needed Cherry bombs with straight through piping>>>>What? I ended up choosing 40 series Flowmaster.
I was then told he would end it at the side in front of the each rear tire...that it may be better than going out the rear because i was going to be charged for each bend and going over the rear axle and that would be 4 bends per each pipe and that would be pricey. again never told them what my budget was. They assumed I was a cheapskate but they gouge me for items I don’t need?
I never even told them how much I was willing to spend...This is a professional company, Im a newby,,,,Still am actually
they said the shorter the pipe the less back pressure.. I didn’t know for a fact whether a vehicle actually needs some back pressure or not if that was true but I though it would be awesome to have the exhaust short.
so for a company that knowns Im going off roading to multiple designations from desert to wooded..Why would they mount the exhaust UNDER the frame rail
Took 4 hours and I was the only vehicle there. I got maybe 8 ft pipe total with basically two bends each, set of flows and they put tips on I didn’t request
Over 450.00 charged for work worththy of a “krapp” award...even the welds look like They could’ve done a little better... I guess labor charge and the torch etc... but that charge wasn’t including the flows or headers..
That’s my wall if Shame. I actually have more
I can’t even get sliders now because of the way these were installed.. told they were a company that excelled at off road exhaust and this is what I get after I fist was shoved up my ... well you know.. not even a kiss.
I am not comfortable with it since I am afraid I will rip it off try to go over something..
It appears they also took your front third member. I can't believe they wanted to put cherrybombs on AND point it out the side. I wouldn't let them touch it after that. You wouldn't be able to hear anythingView attachment 1742306 View attachment 1742305
View attachment 1742312not sure what happened except to say I had no clue at the time what an off road exhaust system would encompass… so i thought a professional business may. I asked around and I was told Mighty Muffler. (spelling? was told recently it was Mighty Muf’ler) So I don’t know however i do know this
this isn’t a system that i feel is conducive for a off roader who was just beginning.
this was put on about 15 years ago
its the only exhaust I’ve ever had put on..
Why is my post here? interesting question
I knew what I was getting into so I thought. I drove home after purchase for 2500.00 with really bad exhaust and a clanking as hell second gear..I almost couldn’t make the drive from Tucson to Phoenix. and definitely not by Freeway with such bad death wobble and with barely functioning improperly mounted Saginaw steering box…. an hours or so drive took more than 2 and half hours definitely not the i-10 but scenic route and on. something like that..but no freeway
got to phoenix the next day I started researching and about a month later decided to go to MM
got to MM in the morning they asked what I was looking for and going to do… and …they asked me how much I wanted to spend even BEFORE we even discussed anything.. that isn’t professionalism.
talk to me about what you can do for me then I will tell you what i can do for you and we go from there
Kinda. So you’d like you have your teeth done well how much money do you have? you see what I mean. Just does not roll off the tongue does it?
anyway i answered the first concern …I said moderate offloading to the lakes, Cove oven, Martinez mine and Crown King etc. and i need good exhaust
I did ask for it to be Dueled. what I didn’t know was about crossover pipes. X pipe H pipe etc. I didnt realize i could use a crossover, mount both mufflers on the drivers side….re-crossover one pipe and exit one pipe out the passenger side rear
so i got caught up with needing mufflers…however I was told No 3” for me cause I most likely didn’t need it, but by the looks of it I think they are 3”.
I was, however sold shorty block hugger headers, that I was told would Breath better than the Rams Horn exhaust i was using…and of coarse was told they would discount the headers by using my rams horn exhaust for average iron scrap weight…. HA what ever, if I only knew then..I wonder who paid a nice price for those header i originally had
told I needed Cherry bombs with straight through piping>>>>What? I ended up choosing 40 series Flowmaster.
I was then told he would end it at the side in front of the each rear tire...that it may be better than going out the rear because i was going to be charged for each bend and going over the rear axle and that would be 4 bends per each pipe and that would be pricey. again never told them what my budget was. They assumed I was a cheapskate but they gouge me for items I don’t need?
I never even told them how much I was willing to spend...This is a professional company, Im a newby,,,,Still am actually
they said the shorter the pipe the less back pressure.. I didn’t know for a fact whether a vehicle actually needs some back pressure or not if that was true but I though it would be awesome to have the exhaust short.
so for a company that knowns Im going off roading to multiple designations from desert to wooded..Why would they mount the exhaust UNDER the frame rail
Took 4 hours and I was the only vehicle there. I got maybe 8 ft pipe total with basically two bends each, set of flows and they put tips on I didn’t request
Over 450.00 charged for work worththy of a “krapp” award...even the welds look like They could’ve done a little better... I guess labor charge and the torch etc... but that charge wasn’t including the flows or headers..
That’s my wall if Shame. I actually have more
I can’t even get sliders now because of the way these were installed.. told they were a company that excelled at off road exhaust and this is what I get after I fist was shoved up my ... well you know.. not even a kiss.
I am not comfortable with it since I am afraid I will rip it off try to go over something..
It could be worse... that same exhaust would be $1200-1500 here. Its a shame about the Ram Horn's... and them not building what you asked for. Would it be wrong to hang the tech's on the wall by their coveralls?
I have seen so many hack exhaust jobs its discusting.. i just buy mandrel bends and do my own. Couldn't find anyone to do quality work... im not paying them 1k for 4hrs work...
It could be worse... that same exhaust would be $1200-1500 here. Its a shame about the Ram Horn's... and them not building what you asked for. Would it be wrong to hang the tech's on the wall by their coveralls?