The Great ONSC Gun Thread

[LINUS]

When you say "magazine rifles shot cross-handed helps a ton for alot of situations...", are you saying to shoot right handed (right hand is trigger hand) with a magazine rifle, even if you are left-eye dominant? How would you line up the sights? Do you hold it with the stock against your left shoulder, but use your right hand as the trigger hand? I've never tried it that way. Seems like it would be a little awkward. I just switch to left-handed for rifle / shotgun, but stick with right-handed for pistol.

No, not sure how that would work out - I just meant being versatile in the left eye /left hand on trigger or right eye / right hand on trigger, whichever isn't your "go to" side.

The simple way like you were initially thinking - being able to go totally to the non-dominant side & shoot with some level of accuracy is an asset - esp like in hooch-style duck blinds (dirt coffins don't matter) -or even as simple as teaching someone new to firearms that you take to a traditional range - if you normally shoot left (like me) but can go right (really helps whoever you're teaching so they only have to "copy" you), that is like the picture being worth a 1000 words - that way they aren't translating while learning.

Then there's always the argument for it in relation to 3 gun type match/contests - we do a super informal version among friends & my "go to" being left helps a ton in the AR- part shooting from behind a barricade/cover where the righties have to stop & think where I just flop the rifle to the natural shoulder & sight down my L eye & the occasional spot they rig a "right hand only" blind (or ergonomically a contortion to insist on shooting left), having practiced shooting R gives me a 40/60 of hitting the mark.

As a kid I was a pure leftie, but I got Lasik in my R eye 4-5 yrs back & that's opened a ton of situations - I still can't shoot a RH bow worth a dang, but prior to Lasik I couldn't hit a duck shooting rightie ever. And being able to shoulder up to either side means I'm not always automatically kicked to the far left slot in the hooch-duck blind- but part of that one working out so well %-age wise was because I added a cheap holograph/red dot to my shotgun too (I recommend - money well spent.

 

[GLTHFJ60]

I would like to have a red-dot on my shotgun, but it's hard to justify the cost when the gun itself cost less than $300!

 

[lumbee1]

Once I sell my car, I will be shopping for a pistol. I have always loved the idea of a revolver (brutally simple and easy to clean). At the last gun show, every revolver I picked up just felt odd. It was so odd that if it was loaded, I wouldn't feel comfortable shooting it. At the same show, the XD/XDM, Walther PPX/PPQ, CZ P07, and the S&W M&P felt fantastic in the hand. I couldn't believe the molded comfortable feel of the grip. Plastic or not, the polymers were impressive. I picked up one 1911 with wood scales and didn't care for it. The 1911 felt better than the revolvers but more like a crude wooden club compared to the polymers.

That said, I have a strict budget and the Walther PPQ (my favorite so far) is pushing the limit. I'm not a CC guy or open carry. More like a keep it handy when needed. 9mm is my preferred round due to cost, availability, and power. My wife has to shoot this gun too. Are there any other recommendations in the polymers I should consider?

BTW, I've shot the CZ 85 and the CZ 75 SP01. The SP01 was snappy while the extra heft of the 85 made shots easier to control. Both had a little more muzzle flick than I was expecting and I would say I look like a pro with a shotgun compared to my abilities with a pistol.

 

[JohnVee]

@lumbee1 I've been very happy with every Kahr I've handled. They'll stand up to anything you compare them to. I own multiples. Definitely worth a look unless you need something full sized. Some are steel frame to help with recoil.

 

[Fort Knox]

I would like to have a red-dot on my shotgun, but it's hard to justify the cost when the gun itself cost less than $300!

I put a pretty inexpensive Tru-Glo 2-color Red-dot sight on my AR. I think it was only like $65 at Gander Mountain. Granted, you'd need to add a rail to mount it on a shotgun, but they can be had pretty cheap. I'm certainly no expert, so it could be that you get what you pay for, but I've been pretty happy with mine so far.

 

[GLTHFJ60]

I put a pretty inexpensive Tru-Glo 2-color Red-dot sight on my AR. I think it was only like $65 at Gander Mountain. Granted, you'd need to add a rail to mount it on a shotgun, but they can be had pretty cheap. I'm certainly no expert, so it could be that you get what you pay for, but I've been pretty happy with mine so far.

Damn. Added to the list. I'll do *almost* anything to increase my sporting clays percentage

 

[krzyabncanuck]

My wife had a CZ75 years ago and loved it. She was able to put rounds on target very effectively. Then again she now has switched over to 1911's so take it for what it is worth.

 

[lumbee1]

Damn. Added to the list. I'll do *almost* anything to increase my sporting clays percentage

I would say practice but my first time shooting a gun was my shotgun at Drake Landing and I shot a 27 of 50. I've shot 37, 38, and 28 since then. The day I shot a 28 I was not feeling well and had serious concentration issues. The shotgun was a standard Remington 870 with 28" barrel and mod choke. I've since upgraded to a Benelli Supernova but I have yet to shoot it and my son's T-Ball games are 10:00am every Saturday.

 

[Rice]

I would like to have a red-dot on my shotgun, but it's hard to justify the cost when the gun itself cost less than $300!

Pawn shop. $40.

 

[GLTHFJ60]

I would say practice but my first time shooting a gun was my shotgun at Drake Landing and I shot a 27 of 50. I've shot 37, 38, and 28 since then. The day I shot a 28 I was not feeling well and had serious concentration issues. The shotgun was a standard Remington 870 with 28" barrel and mod choke. I've since upgraded to a Benelli Supernova but I have yet to shoot it and my son's T-Ball games are 10:00am every Saturday.

I've also got an 870 with a 28" barrel, although I haven't checked the choke since purchasing the gun. I'm right around 25-27 the two times I've went. I think you're right, I just need more practice

Pawn shop. $40.

There just happens to be a pawn shop on my way home from work!

 

[erymer]

think I am gonna start looking for a pocket gun. There are just some times with work, etc that my standard CC rig won't do. Something along the size of the LCP but would like to stay with 9mm. Any suggestions?

I was gonna look at the Kahr PM9, shield but am open to other ideas. I loved my G26 but it was just too bulky for the pocket.

 

[GLTHFJ60]

Found this - looks interesting. No experience with any of them, just researching.

 

[ontherxs]

Have this -> http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/p938-extreme.aspx love it. It's the my CC when the H&K USP Compact .40 is to much.

 

[Fort Knox]

I've wanted to switch from the LCP to a sub-compact 9mm too, but the LCP is just so freakin' light and easy to pocket carry. If you look at that list above, the lightest of the group is the Kahr PM9 at 15.9 oz. with an empty magazine. The LCP is 9.4 oz. That's a pretty significant difference.

 

[LINUS]

As for optics, primaryarms.com has a load of Aimpoint type red-dots & I've been very happy with them, and I do have a real AP Micro T-1 to judge against, so the ~$150 you spent there will be an optic you keep for a long time. If you didn't know the price, the build quality feels like it's 2-3x the price. My oldest Primary is ~4 yrs old & aside from superficial scratches to housing (it's either tough paint or AA shell too), it performs perfect & never had a problem - we have 5 PA's in my group of friends & nobody has had a glitch out of theirs to date.

As to which gun - such a personal fit in hand thing that you really have to just shake hands with a ton & see who your dance partner turns up - I have 1911's, Sig 226's, a Sig 2022, a Glock 9mm, and a Glock pocket rocket .357 sig - it's just for CC, but it's perfect balance to me of size, weight, ballistics - but aside from the G33(?) - I have days I'm on fire with a certail one, and then 3 days later I stand a chance of hitting the target better if I throw the gun at it! (Serious, you all know "those days" - right?)

 

[krzyabncanuck]

BLUF. You need to buy a handgun that you are comfortable with and can fire it in the dark while just being woke up or being car jacked or something like that. It Needs to be part of you. Do not buy because of price or size. By because you are good with it and it is good for you.

 

[elkaholic]

@krzyabncanuck speaks The Truth. On days when I cannot carry, about half the time I still put on the holster because it is habit. Finding that balance between conceal-ability and fitment of you can be tough though ... and it changes. 15 years ago, I was one of those that could not shoot a 1911 very well (passable, but not great). Now it is the first choice ...

 

[96Cruiser13]

I CC the LC9, and i know how small the LCP is, but the lc9 is a PERFECT carry gun! Its small enough that even I forget its there (not really) but it doesnt feel like your holding onto it with 1/4 of your hand. Just a thought eric, Id try it out. And ill figure out the snorkel stuff today haha i forgot bud

think I am gonna start looking for a pocket gun. There are just some times with work, etc that my standard CC rig won't do. Something along the size of the LCP but would like to stay with 9mm. Any suggestions?

I was gonna look at the Kahr PM9, shield but am open to other ideas. I loved my G26 but it was just too bulky for the pocket.

 

[angerhater]

go try a SCCY tell me what you think before I go and buy one

 

[erymer]

My EDC is my G19. I love that gun and it's an extension of my hand at this point. Like I mentioned there are just some days when it's just too big for me to carry based on work attire. Whatever I get, it will see plenty of range time and I won't carry it unless I am absolutely certain in my abilities with it. I just wanted to hear a couple opinions on personal experience with a few physically smaller firearms. I'll go molest a few at the local shops and see what feels good.