Tall skinny tires

[cims1970fj40]

@EWheeler and @mattressking what size lifts are guys running including shackle height? I measured the real steel bows and the 40 is about an inch higher than the garage door. I’m considering replacing the shackles to a different size to clear but would like to continue with the 35’s. I believe the tire will still clear if I drop it an inch.

 

[EWheeler]

@EWheeler and @mattressking what size lifts are guys running including shackle height? I measured the real steel bows and the 40 is about an inch higher than the garage door. I’m considering replacing the shackles to a different size to clear but would like to continue with the 35’s. I believe the tire will still clear if I drop it an inch.

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I believe my 40 has the SOR lift springs which is advertised as 2”. Front and rear both have the factory length shackles, it has that “stuffed” look to it.

Dont know if that helps?

 

[mattressking]

@EWheeler and @mattressking what size lifts are guys running including shackle height? I measured the real steel bows and the 40 is about an inch higher than the garage door. I’m considering replacing the shackles to a different size to clear but would like to continue with the 35’s. I believe the tire will still clear if I drop it an inch.

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4” lift springs with 1.5” extended shackles up front and 2.5” in rear.

Here’s the only decent side photos I have currently.

 

[pb4ugo]

@EWheeler and @mattressking what size lifts are guys running including shackle height? I measured the real steel bows and the 40 is about an inch higher than the garage door. I’m considering replacing the shackles to a different size to clear but would like to continue with the 35’s. I believe the tire will still clear if I drop it an inch.

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Typically, If you shorten the shackle by an inch, it will lower the vehicle by 1/2 that amount.

 

[gnob]

since there's not much on these.
yoko g003 in 235/80/17 wheel is 7.5. 30psi
4runner front axle weight is around 2200lb

 

[SNLC]

Michelin Xzl 7.50 X 16 Tire Set Of 5 MICHXZL-5 | Rovers North - Land Rover Parts and Accessories Since 1979

Quantities are limited. Tougher than nails and Afghanistan shale, these classic off-roaders are the tire of choice serving on British Military Land Rovers in the most arduous terrain known. Many experts consider the XZL one of the strongest off-road and desert tires available today. Featuring...

www.roversnorth.com

Cheers

 

[saltycoconuts]

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Michelin Xzl 7.50 X 16 Tire Set Of 5 MICHXZL-5 | Rovers North - Land Rover Parts and Accessories Since 1979

Quantities are limited. Tougher than nails and Afghanistan shale, these classic off-roaders are the tire of choice serving on British Military Land Rovers in the most arduous terrain known. Many experts consider the XZL one of the strongest off-road and desert tires available today. Featuring...

www.roversnorth.com

Cheers

This + California roads + 75 series leaf springs =

 

[flx]

Actually the 7.50 are quite flexible and can be relatively confortable if not over inflated. Their real problem on road are the noise and wet road manner

But damn the price... 2000$ the set of 5

 

[robmobile73]

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Michelin Xzl 7.50 X 16 Tire Set Of 5 MICHXZL-5 | Rovers North - Land Rover Parts and Accessories Since 1979

Quantities are limited. Tougher than nails and Afghanistan shale, these classic off-roaders are the tire of choice serving on British Military Land Rovers in the most arduous terrain known. Many experts consider the XZL one of the strongest off-road and desert tires available today. Featuring...

www.roversnorth.com

Cheers

I considered XZL's at one point. I liked the way the look and the Idea of them reportedly being a very durable tire. I searched alot. This is the only reasonable prices I could find on XZL in North America: 8.25R16 Michelin XZL g wagon | Military Tires - https://militarytires.ca/product/8-25r16-michelin-xzl/
The Mercedes G wagons used by the Canadian Army and in limited numbers by USMC come with those tires. Sometimes when the military switches tire suppliers they'll actually change or turn in to DRMO all the tires from the old supplier even if they are still good. IT's a wastefull way of avoiding complaints/reports of contract violations by continuing to use the old suppliers tires.
You can find chinese copies on Alibaba, but you'd need to do a group buy with some friends, or buy in bulk and ebay what you don't need. : Hot Sell Excellent Off-road Tyre 255/100 R16 Yellow Sea Off Road Tire High Performance Extreme Off Road Tyres - Buy Off-road Tyre 255/100 R16,Off-road Tyre,Extreme Off Road Tyres Product on Alibaba.com - https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Hot-Sell-Excellent-off-road-tyre_1600182451916.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.normal_offer.d_title.19734e7eJOXoI5

 

[BC40]

^ these xzl's on my 40.

(edit: these are 8.25r16 used g. wagen take offs. i like them but would choose different for +$2k)

 

[mjosoba]

Anyone used these in the 35x10.R17 flavor? I’m thinking seriously about it. Had my eye on the Kendas, but they’ve jumped in price!

Most of the reviews I’ve seen have been good, with a handful of ‘out of round’ horror stories. But most seem to have been warrantied out, of the handful.

Terra Hunter X/T – Venom Power Tires

www.venompowertires.com

 

[Hiluxforever]

Anyone used these in the 35x10.R17 flavor? I’m thinking seriously about it. Had my eye on the Kendas, but they’ve jumped in price!

Most of the reviews I’ve seen have been good, with a handful of ‘out of round’ horror stories. But most seem to have been warrantied out, of the handful.

Terra Hunter X/T – Venom Power Tires

www.venompowertires.com

Keep us posted if you go that route.

 

[Trapper50cal]

Anyone used these in the 35x10.R17 flavor? I’m thinking seriously about it. Had my eye on the Kendas, but they’ve jumped in price!

Most of the reviews I’ve seen have been good, with a handful of ‘out of round’ horror stories. But most seem to have been warrantied out, of the handful.

Terra Hunter X/T – Venom Power Tires

www.venompowertires.com

Wow...they're sub $1K for four of them.

 

[mjosoba]

Wow...they're sub $1K for four of them.

Yep yep. I’ve talked to a few guys who had various offerings from them, and they really liked them. I think here in a month or two after I refinish some 17” Sequoia wheels, it may have to happen. I feel like that size would be perfect. I’ve got 315’s now. Had 33x9.5x15’s on a prior cruiser and LOVED them. I think this will be even better, provided they’re a quality product.

 

[mjosoba]

Well NVM… I lucked into some 5,000 mile old, 2023 manufacture BFG KM3’s in 35x12.5x17 for a heck of a deal. Now off to look for threads on refinishing and painting or powder coating 17” sequoia wheels!

 

[NicksFJ40]

 

[REDrum]

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Michelin Xzl 7.50 X 16 Tire Set Of 5 MICHXZL-5 | Rovers North - Land Rover Parts and Accessories Since 1979

Quantities are limited. Tougher than nails and Afghanistan shale, these classic off-roaders are the tire of choice serving on British Military Land Rovers in the most arduous terrain known. Many experts consider the XZL one of the strongest off-road and desert tires available today. Featuring...

www.roversnorth.com

Cheers

XZL were the worst off road tires I have ever run, ran a set for about a year. Very over ratted. Albeit coveted by Rover guys. Yes, iconic... However horrid on New England mud and rocks trails. Two happiest days of my life were the day I got them and the day I sold them. Replaced with 235/85/16 Interco Truxus, order of magnitude better tires.

 

[Mark W]

To be fai

XZL were the worst off road tires I have ever run, ran a set for about a year. Very over ratted. Albeit coveted by Rover guys. Yes, iconic... However horrid on New England mud and rocks trails. Two happiest days of my life were the day I got them and the day I sold them. Replaced with 235/85/16 Interco Truxus, order of magnitude better tires.

To be fair, few tires are gonna do great working over mud slick rock. Can't get grip on the rock and can't dig into the mud.

I am currently pondering having a go at some taller but still skinny Michelins that are available as mil-surplus. 325.85R16 XMLs. More aggressive than the XMLs. These run 38x13. They ain't ag tires, and they ain't highway darlings, but for my uses they *might* turn out to be a good middle ground. They will be noisy and I don't expect a really smooth highway ride. They are heavy, but once you go that large you are accepting that you are not driving a sports car anyway. They will be virtually indestructible even on the Dalton or the Denali Highways as well as the rockier trails I run. The biggest question in my mind is just how well they will do in the softer stuff. I have watched a couple of rigs running these and doing great compared to anything less aggressive than Bogger.

From what I have seen from the handful of outfits selling them, there are actually two different tread patterns (older and newer i assume). One seems much more mud suitable than the other.


Mark...

 

[80t0ylc]

To be fai

To be fair, few tires are gonna do great working over mud slick rock. Can't get grip on the rock and can't dig into the mud.

I am currently pondering having a go at some taller but still skinny Michelins that are available as mil-surplus. 325.85R16 XMLs. More aggressive than the XMLs. These run 38x13. They ain't ag tires, and they ain't highway darlings, but for my uses they *might* turn out to be a good middle ground. They will be noisy and I don't expect a really smooth highway ride. They are heavy, but once you go that large you are accepting that you are not driving a sports car anyway. They will be virtually indestructible even on the Dalton or the Denali Highways as well as the rockier trails I run. The biggest question in my mind is just how well they will do in the softer stuff. I have watched a couple of rigs running these and doing great compared to anything less aggressive than Bogger.

From what I have seen from the handful of outfits selling them, there are actually two different tread patterns (older and newer i assume). One seems much more mud suitable than the other.


Mark...

Those XML's look bullet proof. Only thing is, for the 325/85R/16, you'll need 9" rims (width), so OEM wheels will be too narrow. Plus, at least for my lift (2.5" OME), I'd need to either get a taller lift or get out the sawzall. Was this a source you checked out?

Michelin XML 325/85R16 » 38" Tall and 13" Wide » $250/Each

MICHELIN XML 325/85R16 » 38" Tall and 13" Wide » $250/Each » Call for a great shipping rate and have this shipped directly to your door.

csmarmytires.com

 

[REDrum]

To be fair

I don't understand "fair" in this context. They are a fleet government tire that is an outdated design, they handle like a bias ply on tarmac, don't air down well, have poor lock-up on gravel (and other conditions noted), had to source and over priced. YMMV....