Review: Delta VS Panhard Lift Bracket

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It's everywhere on my truck. One example: The hitch mount bolts broke off inside my frame when I was puting the new rear bumper on. I had to chisel off the weld nuts in the frame rails and slide in some metal bar with new weld nuts inside the frame rails to install it.

The front is OK because of leaking oil and steering fluid. Haha But the back of the truck all the fasteners are really rusted everywhere. I always get nervous about servicing components back there.

*edit* Another example, when I took off the side step mounting brackets, I had 2 of the captive nuts inside the body break free and spin and another bolt or two that just broke but without breaking the captive nut.

Sad to hear but this level of rust is not a common problem for most:meh:
 
R U S T

It's everywhere on my truck. One example: The hitch mount bolts broke off inside my frame when I was puting the new rear bumper on. I had to chisel off the weld nuts in the frame rails and slide in some metal bar with new weld nuts inside the frame rails to install it.

The front is OK because of leaking oil and steering fluid. Haha But the back of the truck all the fasteners are really rusted everywhere. I always get nervous about servicing components back there.

*edit* Another example, when I took off the side step mounting brackets, I had 2 of the captive nuts inside the body break free and spin and another bolt or two that just broke but without breaking the captive nut.
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So my rig has 1-2 inches of body lift and 2 inches of suspension lift (older OME stuff). I bought it built so I'm not 100 percent certain. Pretty sure I don't have an adjustable panhard rod either though. I can't say I've noticed this rear end squirm that people are discussing. I've had it 4 years and always thought the road manners were amazing for a vehicle with this capability. My old 4th gen 4runner that I put on 35's drove like s*** on the road. This cruiser, amazing.

Do I not have enough lift for this bracket to be worthwhile or do I just not know how much better the on road ride could be? It sits on 35" tires and I've taken it on some trails that probably rank on the heavier end of moderate difficulty.

Any input would be helpful.

Thanks,
Evan
 
So my rig has 1-2 inches of body lift and 2 inches of suspension lift (older OME stuff). I bought it built so I'm not 100 percent certain. Pretty sure I don't have an adjustable panhard rod either though. I can't say I've noticed this rear end squirm that people are discussing. I've had it 4 years and always thought the road manners were amazing for a vehicle with this capability. My old 4th gen 4runner that I put on 35's drove like s*** on the road. This cruiser, amazing.

Do I not have enough lift for this bracket to be worthwhile or do I just not know how much better the on road ride could be? It sits on 35" tires and I've taken it on some trails that probably rank on the heavier end of moderate difficulty.

Any input would be helpful.

Thanks,
Evan
If you only have 2 inches of suspension lift you probably aren't going to notice a difference, your geometry isn't compromised enough. That being said, I have a 6 inch suspension lift and I have never felt the wagging that people are reporting being fixed by raising the axle end of the panhard. I can understand the concept, but I guess I'm not sensitive enough to feel it.
 
So my rig has 1-2 inches of body lift and 2 inches of suspension lift (older OME stuff). I bought it built so I'm not 100 percent certain. Pretty sure I don't have an adjustable panhard rod either though. I can't say I've noticed this rear end squirm that people are discussing. I've had it 4 years and always thought the road manners were amazing for a vehicle with this capability. My old 4th gen 4runner that I put on 35's drove like s*** on the road. This cruiser, amazing.

Do I not have enough lift for this bracket to be worthwhile or do I just not know how much better the on road ride could be? It sits on 35" tires and I've taken it on some trails that probably rank on the heavier end of moderate difficulty.

Any input would be helpful.

Thanks,
Evan

What is the measurement from the center of your front hub center to the underside of the fender lip?
 
Guys with a true 6" of lift get about 1.25" of side movement within ~5" of down travel.:eek: With more than 4" of lift one would be better served with a special order taller bracket. PM me or contact Delta direct if you are one of those guys:)
 
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Alex,
Thanks.

Phil,

I removed the center caps from my rims but both front and rear sit right around 24" from about center to underside of fender. I assume you mean the fender flare and not the actual metal body, correct?
 
Alex,
Thanks.

Phil,

I removed the center caps from my rims but both front and rear sit right around 24" from about center to underside of fender.

You would be a candidate IMO.
Im at 23" and prior to raising my panhard looked like below. Now its flat.

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What is the measurement from the center of your front hub center to the underside of the fender lip?
This measurement includes the body lift (if he has one, which he says he does). I can put a 12" body lift on my truck on a stock suspension- do I need to lift the panhard?
 
This measurement includes the body lift (if he has one, which he says he does). I can put a 12" body lift on my truck on a stock suspension- do I need to lift the panhard?

Also noted was he was not sure why I posted a visual.

If you put a 12" body lift on your truck you need much more before you address the panhard. I would start with a non mechanical evaluation.:grinpimp:
 
I would start with a non mechanical evaluation.:grinpimp:
LOL, true.

I just want it to be clear that if the suspension is only lifted 2", there is likely very little benefit to raising the panhard axle mount. A better place to reference suspension lift would be between the axle and the frame. I don't know if anyone has published the stock number or not.
 
I'll snap and post a couple pics tomorrow but my panhard bar def looks like Phils. It's also def stock (or at least not adjustable if it isn't).
 
No time like the present I suppose. Here's a shot similar to Phils and a shot of how the pig sits.
What makes you think there's a body lift? How about a pic of one of the body mounts?
 
Hahah, oh boy.... It's getting dark here but I snapped a couple.

What made me think there was a body lift? When I bought it the PO told me there was one. He wasn't much of a wheeler and had also bought the truck built mostly the way it is. I never checked (stupid, I know, but I fell in love with it). What makes me think there is one now? Um...nothing. I personally built my last rig (4th gen 4runner) but have never owned a Cruiser before this. Since I've owned it I mostly take it to a trusted mechanic due mostly to lack of a good work space. So I honestly haven't poked around too much underneath.

Here's a couple pics of the mounts. Doesn't look like a lift to me unless that rear bracket isn't factory.
 
After googling a bit it looks like the front is stock but the back bracket may be aftermarket? Presumably to level it out, perhaps? It sits almost perfectly on it's stance. Damn similar measurements for both the front and back hub-wheel.
 
Doesn't look like a lift to me
Me either. By the current MUD wisdom you'd probably benefit from the lifted panhard bracket. If, of course, you think there's improvement to be had. Me, I've yet to be convinced, but the science is against me.
 
That's where it's weird. As I said the road manners are super awesome for what it is. Would the bracket give better articulation when wheeling or are they just for on road performance?
 
That's where it's weird. As I said the road manners are super awesome for what it is. Would the bracket give better articulation when wheeling or are they just for on road performance?

You will get no gains or losses in articulation or improved crawling
The benefit will be for on road use -
Minimizing side to side axle movement when suspension compresses or when hitting bumps
Much improvement centering of the axle (this can help providing clearance with larger tire)
Raise roll axis for less body roll in corners
 
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