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$106K (!)

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gonzopancho said:
More than $106k. @J Mack said it was six figures at TT, plus his shop, plus parts, plus the original purchase
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What is the Rush Pig you keep mentioning
 
Perfect build! Modern, easily maintained drivetrain. Docile enough for a grocery run, comfortable for high speed freeway cruising, and tough enough for all but the most gnarly trails. Well thought out, Don. Hope you’re happy with a record BAT sale for Pigs. Great finishing touches, Jim. You two made a great team.
 
J Mack said:
I grew up a Chevy guy and had/built a few. The older Chevy's had longer shackles that ran through the frame in the rear and when you lifted them it wasn't out of the ordinary to have 8° plus of caster and we all drove our stuff hard and fast back then..
Fast forward to my first FJ55 and I was given the advise of "just buy the kit and install it as per instruction and you'll be fine"! Without much thought I did exactly that and it was possibly the scariest car I've ever driven at speed on a road with any crown or truck ruts and that set me on the path of not asking the "Toyota guys" about front end geometry ( every one of them will tell you shims or 3° to 4°) and come up with my own plan. I like the 4° to 6° caster for a everyday driver and believe those are still safe numbers if you're just throwing out internet advice.
I had the OME springs and installed 4° shims and it was better but still sucked to drive at any speed and the short front shackles would invert so hard I was bending the anti inversion bolts in the shackles the way I drove it off road. The plan was make a new front end with more caster and get rid of the short shackles, some quick math will tell you the springs we use need a 6"-7" shackle and on my personal pig I like 6° to 8° of caster (proceed with caution if you step out side of the norm) and I built the stuff to keep the front shackle but go up through the frame. I have taken several here on Mud for a ride and a few have also driven on fast fire roads or at highway speeds and this old $hit box rides better than it should, way better than some of the new Heep or Toyotas I own on the same roads around here.
My point in all this rambling is if we stop all repeating bad (Toyota) information and look at what works outside of Toyota I think a simple leaf spring solution could be found or at the very least we could stop telling new'ish guys that this brand or that brand spring doesn't effect your caster and you wont need shims or cut and turn. IMHO every readily available FJ55 lift kit makes the already lacking front geometry worse.
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Always love when this post happens.

Did you just cut and paste it ?
 
Just wasted an hour reading this thread. Now I gotta go find the original thread and waste more time.

Holy hell the sidetracks in the 55 section are epic.
 
@Pigeaten hope you got what you wanted, and if you didn't, I hope you at least have good stories to tell. Pigs finally broke six figures on BAT
Pigeaten said:
my first thought after it sold was what's next? Another pig, something else, but realized i'd like to keep my balls. Since little was done on house after my accident, back to work
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so.. another pig then? 🤣

wait a bit, something will come along.
 
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