Builds Land Crusher Build Thread - V2

[Somebodyelse5]

I need to build the main ground to negative terminal wire on my rig. You’re gonna be my coach!

Happy to help! It's really simple, and the tools you need aren't real expensive. Cable is a bit pricey though

 

[Somebodyelse5]

Here is what I'm doing, just some notes:

I added an inch or two on some of the wires based on the routing. Will confirm the lengths above.

As of right now, I am not going to make a new cable going to the alternator, I don't want to deal with the fusible links and from what I understand, having a bigger + wire behind those fusible links isn't going to make a big difference. A lot of folks seem to "add" a wire direct from the Alternator to the (+) terminal of the battery, but that bypasses the fusible link and that's not good.

 

[FMC80]

Here is what I'm doing, just some notes:
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I added an inch or two on some of the wires based on the routing. Will confirm the lengths above.

As of right now, I am not going to make a new cable going to the alternator, I don't want to deal with the fusible links and from what I understand, having a bigger + wire behind those fusible links isn't going to make a big difference. A lot of folks seem to "add" a wire direct from the Alternator to the (+) terminal of the battery, but that bypasses the fusible link and that's not good.

I looked at this post and blacked out. Where am I?

 

[PNWTreeOctopus]

I looked at this post and blacked out. Where am I?

Hawaii bruh!!!

 

[Somebodyelse5]

I looked at this post and blacked out. Where am I?

Hawaii bruh!!!

Can I come? HI sounds nice right about now

 

[FMC80]

Can I come? HI sounds nice right about now

Come on over, you and your fam will have a place to stay for "free"...as long as you help me wire s*** up on the cruiser!

 

[TYM4FUN]

Come on over, you and your fam will have a place to stay for "free"...as long as you help me wire s*** up on the cruiser!

Deal.

 

[Somebodyelse5]

Come on over, you and your fam will have a place to stay for "free"...as long as you help me wire s*** up on the cruiser!

Feed me musibi and kalbi, i’m in

 

[FMC80]

Feed me musibi and kalbi, i’m in

Let’s go!

 

[Somebodyelse5]

If you are on the edge about upgrading your ground cables... definitely do it. Noticed that it started faster, idles a bit smoother, and I am seeing a voltage increase of about .5 to 1V when running various electronics.

My lengths were all a bit long, but nothing got in the way, for the 1/0 cables I would go about 2" shorter than my dimensions.

I used 3/8" lugs for both the 4awg and 1/0 awg cables. For the block stud, I had to open the hole up (I forget what bit I used), and then I bent it 90 deg in the vice (that location has a 90 degree lug from the factory). You can see the bent lug in the picture:

Got all of the wiring and the VO switch finished up tonight. All that's left is routing the wire for the switch plate.

Doggo helping get them aimed:

 

[Somebodyelse5]

I had a set of @Ramathorn15's rock lights on my 100 and they were awesome, so figured I would see what I could come up with for the 80. Goal here is to have lights that I can turn on with a switch AND turn on when the doors open (using the dome light as a signal).

This may not be the most efficient way to do this, so feel free to chime in with better ideas. Here's my doodling and the bench testing set up. I need to dig into the wiring diagram and determine where the first relay will live, but I plan to tap the dome light + signal to trip the relay when the doors open. The second relay will be on my VO Switch block so I can turn them on with the switch.

Note: I think I am using single pole, double throw (SPDT) Type B relays. But this isn't really critical.


mocked up:

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[Somebodyelse5]

I recut a bunch of TRD livery stripes out of Avery Dennison vinyl (SW900), whatever I have left after the CSC meeting tonight I'll send out to whoever wants a set. Just PM your mailing address and I will drop them in an envelope, free fifty free.

Vinyl type and color code for future reference:
SW900-235-O
SW900-373
SW900-433

 

[Somebodyelse5]

I think i found where to tap for dome light signal, to trip the relay and turn on rock lights, just need to dig in and see which of those three wires i can access in the kick panel if any

 

[Somebodyelse5]

I replaced just about all of the exterior and interior factory lights with LED's from Diode Dynamics last night. It turns out you DO need a load resistor for your blinkers, to avoid hyperflash as the LED's draw so little current. I have these on the way and will report back once I get them installed and working. Otherwise, everything else is plug and play.

Light Location	QTY	Factory Light	Color	Notes
Brake lights	2	1157	Red	DD XP80 (polarity matters during install)
Reverse Lights	2	1156	cool white	DD XPR
License Plate	2	194	cool white	DD HP5
Rear Markers	2	194	Red	DD HP5 (get red, or they will look pink)
Rear Blinkers	2	1156	amber	Superbright LEDS - 1156-A27-T Needs flasher relay replaced
Front Blinker	2	1156	amber	Superbright LEDS - 1156-A27-T Needs flasher relay replaced
Blinker Flasher Relay	1	-	-	Superbright LEDS - CF13GL-02: 3 Pin Black European Flasher
Front corner	2	194	amber	DD HP5
High Beam	2	9005	cool white	Diode Dynamics SL1 - Requires trimming of retention ring
Low Beam	2	9006	cool white	Diode Dynamics SL1 - Requires trimming of retention ring
Doors	4	194	warm white	DD HP5 3000k
Map Light	1	31mm	warm white	3000k - DD kit comes with the correct adapter to mount dome and map
Dome light	2	31mm	warm white	3000k - DD kit comes with the correct adapter to mount dome and map

I really dislike the bright 5000k+ interior LED's most folks use... so all of the ready to go kits were off the table. DD sells the interior lights in a few different colors, I went with "warm white" (3000k) and am real happy with how it looks inside.

All of this I ordered directly through DD, they are nice people.

I'll try to get some pictures tonight


EDIT:
- 1157 switchbacks will not work in the front blinkers without a bunch of additional wiring. You'd need a 1157 socket and to add a wire from the running light.
- I returned the diode dynamics blinker lights and got the cheaper bulbs from superbright LED's and the replacement relay to eliminate hyperflash of the blinkers. (this is a better option than adding the load simulators at each corner).
- The DD XP80 brake light bulbs are crazy bright... almost looks like your brakes are on when they aren't.

 

[FMC80]

I replaced just about all of the exterior and interior factory lights with LED's from Diode Dynamics last night. It turns out you DO need a load resistor for your blinkers, to avoid hyperflash as the LED's draw so little current. I have these on the way and will report back once I get them installed and working. Otherwise, everything else is plug and play.

Light Location	QTY	Factory Light	Color	Notes
Brake lights	2	1157	Red	DD XP80 (polarity matters during install)
Reverse Lights	2	1156	cool white	DD XPR
License Plate	2	194	cool white	DD HP5
Rear Markers	2	194	Red	DD HP5 (get red, or they will look pink)
Rear Blinkers	2	1156	cool white	DD XPR - Needs load simulator
Front Blinker	2	1156 / 1157	amber	HP24 - Needs load simulator (switch back, so they run white normally)
Front corner	2	194	amber	DD HP5
High Beam	2	9005	cool white	Diode Dynamics SL1 - Requires trimming of retention ring
Low Beam	2	9006	cool white	Diode Dynamics SL1 - Requires trimming of retention ring
Doors	4	194	warm white	DD HP5 3000k
Map Light	2	31mm	warm white	3000k - DD kit comes with the correct adapter to mount dome and map
Dome light	1	31mm	warm white	3000k - DD kit comes with the correct adapter to mount dome and map

I really dislike the bright 5000k+ interior LED's most folks use... so all of the ready to go kits were off the table. DD sells the interior lights in a few different colors, I want with "warm white" (3000k) and am real happy with how it looks inside.

All of this I ordered directly through DD, they are nice people.
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I'll try to get some pictures tonight

Nice work providing all the info for us. I like Diode Dynamics; I read most of their products are made in the USA. I think that’s worth paying more for their products.

 

[Somebodyelse5]

Bath time:

Rear LED's in action:

3000K Interior LED's are the ticket. Bright and don't feel like I am in a hospital.

 

[Somebodyelse5]

With the Prinsu sale going on, I decided to order a rack Should be here in the next week or two. I'll be deleting the factory rack and since I don't plan on dropping the headliner right now, I'll fill the holes with some bolts. Here is what I ordered from McMaster Carr:

For those unfamiliar with the magic and wonder that IS McMaster Carr, the 9####### is the P/N and it's searchable on their site AND they have drawings and CAD models available for free.

I ordered the M10 washer as it has an OD of 20mm, so it will extend just outside of the flange of the bolt (the 19.1mm DIA) and the ID should clear the slight protrusion from threaded insert in the roof. I ordered a M5 size as well just in case. I ordered a full box of 50, so if these work and anyone needs them, shoot me a PM. I think I can send them in a normal letter envelope.

I guessed at the 12mm bolt length, this seems to be plenty. You could go shorter or longer, but 12mm seems to do the trick.

I also ordered some tapered rubber trim for the lower edge of the roof rack where it mates with the drip rial valley. I don't want metal on body and this cross section should help it stay in place.

Pictures of the test fit, ID of M10 washer clears the protrusion of the threadsert:

While the OD of the washer sits just outside the OD of the flange:

I am going to install all 8 with a dab of RTV in the threads and a dab at the root of the threads, under the head of the bolt. That should give the threads a nice coating and fill any of the gaps

 

[PNWTreeOctopus]

With the Prinsu sale going on, I decided to order a rack Should be here in the next week or two. I'll be deleting the factory rack and since I don't plan on dropping the headliner right now, I'll fill the holes with some bolts. Here is what I ordered from McMaster Carr, I will confirm sizes and post pictures once everything is installed:

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For those unfamiliar with the magic and wonder that IS McMaster Carr, the 9####### is the P/N and it's searchable on their site AND they have drawings and CAD models available for free.

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I ordered the M10 washer as it has an OD of 20mm, so it will extend just outside of the flange of the bolt (the 19.1mm DIA) and the ID should clear the slight protrusion from threaded insert in the roof. I ordered a M5 size as well just in case. I ordered a full box of 50, so if these work and anyone needs them, shoot me a PM. I think I can send them in a normal letter envelope.

I guessed at the 12mm bolt length, will report back on sizing but from the research I did this should work just fine with a 1-2mm thick rubber washer.

I also ordered some tapered rubber trim for the lower edge of the roof rack where it mates with the drip rial valley. I don't want metal on body and this cross section should help it stay in place.
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Once I get everything delivered and installed I will post some pictures and confirm the sizes of all the parts

Excellent Excellent tech. I’m curious if this will de I’m curious if this will delete the center ribs that so many of us are stuck with. Mine gather moss and dirt and I want them gone.

 

[Somebodyelse5]

Excellent Excellent tech. I’m curious if this will de I’m curious if this will delete the center ribs that so many of us are stuck with. Mine gather moss and dirt and I want them gone.

I'll definitely take a look while I'm poking around the roof. Wasn't planning on getting rid of the rails, but it may be the same setup with a different sized bolt.

 

[PNWTreeOctopus]

I'll definitely take a look while I'm poking around the roof. Wasn't planning on getting rid of the rails, but it may be the same setup with a different sized bolt.

I assume they are different sized. Wits has a kit similar to your intended solution and I believe it will not delete the ribs. If I could run a front runner table clone I’d be very excited.