Installed Dobinson's 1.75 Inch Variable Rate Suspension Kit: C59 - 222V, C59 223V

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Mall speed bump crawling :D

Not a daily driver but something I can take on freeways / streets to get to remote destinations (mountains/deserts) backtrails and some overlanding. No rock crawling stuff
How heavy is your cruiser?
 
How heavy is your cruiser?

Front:
ARB front bumper and plan on adding a badlands winch so total front weight would be about 200 lbs

Middle:
Adding White Knuckle Offroad Sliders so 120 lbs
May add a roof rack and tent in the future

Back:
Dual Swing Out rear metal bumper and 35 inch spare tire on bumper so about 300lbs I believe
 
Front:
ARB front bumper and plan on adding a badlands winch so total front weight would be about 200 lbs

Middle:
Adding White Knuckle Offroad Sliders so 120 lbs
May add a roof rack and tent in the future

Back:
Dual Swing Out rear metal bumper and 35 inch spare tire on bumper so about 300lbs I believe
Then IMO, this set up is too soft.
My truckis stock weight and this set up is perfect on road. Off road is a delight as I can dial it in with the dob MRR shocks with occasional bottoming out. But I could go slower.
 
I'm running front arb and winch, roofrack, rear bar with daul swingouts and do some serious offroading. I have never bottomed out my 223/222 combo and pretty sure I've got abit of airtime once or twice. Also have a 20mm spacer in front and this setup is perfect for what I do. Gotta remember it's a landcruiser, there will always be some body roll etc. on road.
 
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Should add body roll in mine is about the same as stock. But you could always put a beefier rear swaybar in.

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@crikeymike My trucks a big higher than I'd like. I'm currently on icon coils with the IMS 4-5" shocks (IMS45-60912 & IMS59-60687).

Would I need new shocks for the 222/223?
I have lower bump stops and @Delta VS rear spring retainers.

Edit-

Answering my own question with knowledge from the shock Bible (Compiled 80 series suspension component spec thread... shocks, coils & more. - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/compiled-80-series-suspension-component-spec-thread-shocks-coils-more.1026595/#post-11348352).

Quoting @GW Nugget "[if] your free height is at least 19.5" you can run a shock that extends to 26.5" like the OME L shock without coil falling out."

The c59-223v is ~20", and the IMS45-60912 is 26.3" fully extended.
Following up on this- the driver side coil looks great but I could probably yank the passenger side 222 out at full droop using the longer shocks. Would it actually fall out on its own? Probably not but it does make me slightly uneasy.

I'll probably end up swapping to the 0-3" shocks before too long (at least up front), being careful not to catch any big air in the meantime 😂

I planned on coming down from a 3" icon coil setup that was over 3" up front and a bit lower in the rear.

I only had to time to swap my front icon coils out for the 222s and had planned on doing more over the weekend but might hold off . . .

I'm really digging the stance with the icons in the back so I might actually leave it this way. Truck sits perfectly level with a full load out and just a bit of stink unloaded with a delta swing out bumper and 35" mud tire.

Especially hearing some of y'all are saggy loaded this could actually be the perfect combo.
 
Got some caster numbers for my rig with the 222/icon rear combo with 2" @Delta VS arms. Truck handles pretty good but I would prefer a bit more caster for return to center, tracking, and highway stability. I'm also planning on installing an HD swaybar which should help.

I also have a set of 3" arms - those should put my caster right at 4° and that's exactly where I'd like to be, but I suspect the u joints / pinion angles won't like it. I have new driveshafts coming on the brown truck this week since my slip yokes have play. We'll see if a fresh driveline can handle the increased pinion angles. If not it's decision time- either

A.) live with 2°
B.) go down to a 1" lift with 861s and a spacer
C.) screw it and go part time.

My current hub to flair measurements are 22.5 in the front and 23.5 in the rear unloaded, darn near perfectly flat with a weekends worth of gear.

I really dig the ride height but I could lose an inch and be fine, I'm no crawler, too attached to this rig to trash it on the really challenging stuff.

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Got some caster numbers for my rig with the 222/icon rear combo with 2" @Delta VS arms. Truck handles pretty good but I would prefer a bit more caster for return to center, tracking, and highway stability. I'm also planning on installing an HD swaybar which should help.

I also have a set of 3" arms - those should put my caster right at 4° and that's exactly where I'd like to be, but I suspect the u joints / pinion angles won't like it. I have new driveshafts coming on the brown truck this week since my slip yokes have play. We'll see if a fresh driveline can handle the increased pinion angles. If not it's decision time- either

A.) live with 2°
B.) go down to a 1" lift with 861s and a spacer
C.) screw it and go part time.

My current hub to flair measurements are 22.5 in the front and 23.5 in the rear unloaded, darn near perfectly flat with a weekends worth of gear.

I really dig the ride height but I could lose an inch and be fine, I'm no crawler, too attached to this rig to trash it on the really challenging stuff.

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Seriously questioning your foot attire right now
 
Got some caster numbers for my rig with the 222/icon rear combo with 2" @Delta VS arms. Truck handles pretty good but I would prefer a bit more caster for return to center, tracking, and highway stability. I'm also planning on installing an HD swaybar which should help.

I also have a set of 3" arms - those should put my caster right at 4° and that's exactly where I'd like to be, but I suspect the u joints / pinion angles won't like it. I have new driveshafts coming on the brown truck this week since my slip yokes have play. We'll see if a fresh driveline can handle the increased pinion angles. If not it's decision time- either

A.) live with 2°
B.) go down to a 1" lift with 861s and a spacer
C.) screw it and go part time.

My current hub to flair measurements are 22.5 in the front and 23.5 in the rear unloaded, darn near perfectly flat with a weekends worth of gear.

I really dig the ride height but I could lose an inch and be fine, I'm no crawler, too attached to this rig to trash it on the really challenging stuff.

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big toe adjustments lol
 
Rear toe variance could indicated worn out bushings, wallowed out bolts/sleeves/mounts, or bent upper or lower arms.
 
Got some caster numbers for my rig with the 222/icon rear combo with 2" @Delta VS arms. Truck handles pretty good but I would prefer a bit more caster for return to center, tracking, and highway stability. I'm also planning on installing an HD swaybar which should help.

I also have a set of 3" arms - those should put my caster right at 4° and that's exactly where I'd like to be, but I suspect the u joints / pinion angles won't like it. I have new driveshafts coming on the brown truck this week since my slip yokes have play. We'll see if a fresh driveline can handle the increased pinion angles. If not it's decision time- either

A.) live with 2°
B.) go down to a 1" lift with 861s and a spacer
C.) screw it and go part time.

My current hub to flair measurements are 22.5 in the front and 23.5 in the rear unloaded, darn near perfectly flat with a weekends worth of gear.

I really dig the ride height but I could lose an inch and be fine, I'm no crawler, too attached to this rig to trash it on the really challenging stuff.

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I’m in the same position as you, except I have the 3” arms. Haven’t got an alignment yet to see my caster numbers. But I’ve had vibrations.
Let us know how the new ds work out and if you get vibes. Maybe hang on the the 2” arms as an option if you get vibes with the 3” arms.
 
Got some caster numbers for my rig with the 222/icon rear combo with 2" @Delta VS arms. Truck handles pretty good but I would prefer a bit more caster for return to center, tracking, and highway stability. I'm also planning on installing an HD swaybar which should help.

I also have a set of 3" arms - those should put my caster right at 4° and that's exactly where I'd like to be, but I suspect the u joints / pinion angles won't like it. I have new driveshafts coming on the brown truck this week since my slip yokes have play. We'll see if a fresh driveline can handle the increased pinion angles. If not it's decision time- either

A.) live with 2°
B.) go down to a 1" lift with 861s and a spacer
C.) screw it and go part time.

My current hub to flair measurements are 22.5 in the front and 23.5 in the rear unloaded, darn near perfectly flat with a weekends worth of gear.

I really dig the ride height but I could lose an inch and be fine, I'm no crawler, too attached to this rig to trash it on the really challenging stuff.

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Btw, C is the answer
 
Btw, C is the answer
It is. Unless you live in socal, (OP maybe cheaper/easier in TN?) where shops quote $1300 for the job, not including parts. (Even that shop is 40 miles from me). And that’s if a shop will even touch a 20 year old truck. Ask me how I know. This option is too much of a pain and too expensive to fix a vibration for some, when going back down in lift is free. Plus you don’t lose full time awd…..blah blah this has been debated forever here.
Point is, work flow should go from least expensive/simplest —> more expensive/complicsted. IMO.
If I had more time and money, and a spare car since the 80 is my dd, I would go part time.
 
Maybe hang on the the 2” arms as an option if you get vibes with the 3” arms.
I might collect all 5 and just hang'm on the wall.
Btw, C is the answer
Dumb question but is it still smooth in 2wd WITH hubs engaged? Can't be getting my bare toes muddy, now ;)
Unless you live in socal, where shops quote $1300
If you're getting UD gears too that sounds pretty fair IMO- if not that's the socal tax I suppose 🤷‍♂️

I'm a 2 banana guy, but it doesn't look too hard. Totally get the time thing though.

Edit- yolo - ordered a built t case from @cruiseroutfit
 
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