Do it right, do it once!
Im getting dustless blasted!
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You have gone this far.... I vote frame off. 
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Day one, minor surface rust inside hard top track thingys and rear tail lights, driver side floor. a superb frame off candidate.
Day 7 after taking the rig to the mechanic from hell who toasted it in a garage fire.
How it sits now,
Day 7 after taking the rig to the mechanic from hell who toasted it in a garage fire.
How it sits now,
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Hmm, is there any cheats on teh rotisserie? I'm near redding but the closest guy is $700 more for blasting but has a rotisserie. Can you tip it on its side with out damage?
With enough folks and a padded solid, flat surface you can tip it on its side without damage. At paint time you can prime and paint the underside, mask it off and set it on stands/horses to finish the rest of the tub. Be sure to tape over holes to prevent over-spray. It's a little bit 'redneck' and not the optimal method, but it can be done.
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Yep,
Betta go all in.
Frame off, rotisserie, and nooks and crannies with dental tools....
I have the money but I have lots of time, wanted to tub off, prime and paint, put back on then do gaskets and then hood and smalls.
reddingcruiser did you talk to the "new guy" who does glass bead blasting on Oasis road past redding? He is jsut getting set up this month. He has a legit setup, one of the nicer home auto shops iv seen. I'm taking smalls to him for testing then straight up frame off all new bolts. Might not be wise but I'm really thinking this will be my only shot in life at such a neat and interesting car, well besides my FJ80.
If you're going to do a lot of fixing and make it nice as a keeper, frame off is the way to go. In the long run it is quicker and easier. Eg: Searching and repairing faults and/or wear and tear on a wiring loom while it is in place is difficult, dirty, frustrating and time consuming. Having a nice clean loom lying on a table with plenty light is sooo much better than lying on your back trying to do something in the semi darkness with dust and other crap falling into your eyes.
Brake lines are another example. Frame off you're working in good light with plenty of space to move around in vs lying on your back on a creeper with old mud and dust raining down on you in semi darkness.
Brake lines are another example. Frame off you're working in good light with plenty of space to move around in vs lying on your back on a creeper with old mud and dust raining down on you in semi darkness.
Taking it apart is one thing. Taking apart WITH NOTES so you remember how to put it all back together is another. I can't tell you how many people I PERSONALLY KNOW that went down this rabbit hole thinking "I'll remember" when it's time to put it back together. I've made house calls for a few. Many others I have just ended up buying the boxes of parts. The 40 I donated to the TLCA for the raffle was the most recent example.
And it's literally three times as long....minimum...to put it back together. EVERY SINGLE PART you walk towards the truck, and before you get there you say to yourself 'There will never be a better time to detail this than RIGHT NOW.'
All this said, based on the collateral damage potential, I'd vote frame off in a heartbeat. Take 5 minutes and try turning ALL the body mount bolts, especially the ones under the rear sill. If you meet resistance, plan on taking a sawsall to them and getting a new set. Your knuckles will thank you.
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Mark
And it's literally three times as long....minimum...to put it back together. EVERY SINGLE PART you walk towards the truck, and before you get there you say to yourself 'There will never be a better time to detail this than RIGHT NOW.'
All this said, based on the collateral damage potential, I'd vote frame off in a heartbeat. Take 5 minutes and try turning ALL the body mount bolts, especially the ones under the rear sill. If you meet resistance, plan on taking a sawsall to them and getting a new set. Your knuckles will thank you.
Best
Mark
As always, good advice Mark. When mine came apart, I took lots of pictures, and used a ton of labeled ziploc bags. I have it all organized on a three tier shelving unit. While the body was at the body shop, I went through every back cleaning/rebuilding every part. Engine, tranny, brakes etc have all been rebuilt and reinstalled. The body shop, four months later, is still not finished. It isnt all their fault (wrong quarters were sent, decided to replace some stuff, etc) but they aren't being real fast. My point is, you should have a fair amount of time waiting on paint and body work, mine as well fix the other stuff while you wait.
Mark and Mark agree...
Body off... after all you are going to want to replace the body mounts anyway.
Video and still pictures, labeled zip lock bags (write on a piece of paper with ink (not sharpie) and put it in the bag.) Store the bgs in other bags by use/part of the truck. Don't assume you will remember ANYTHING.
You WILL want to clean/detail every part before you put it back in so it is a good idea to batch up the little parts for blasting/soaking/derusting and painting BEFORE you are starting to put things back together.
Body off... after all you are going to want to replace the body mounts anyway.
Video and still pictures, labeled zip lock bags (write on a piece of paper with ink (not sharpie) and put it in the bag.) Store the bgs in other bags by use/part of the truck. Don't assume you will remember ANYTHING.
You WILL want to clean/detail every part before you put it back in so it is a good idea to batch up the little parts for blasting/soaking/derusting and painting BEFORE you are starting to put things back together.
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Ok you say video and label parts in baggies. Ok well I have done that but right now the vehicle could start and drive, so I'm at body panels, hinges, Trans cover, window motor and dash and trim stage, wont that be super easy to figure out? Iv not gone that "deep" Ok the fuel tank sure but iv done that once before.
So I dont need to worry yet do I? I hinge is a hinge and a window motor..and well the head light?
So I dont need to worry yet do I? I hinge is a hinge and a window motor..and well the head light?
What you need to bag are the fixings and clips etc that hold the easy bits on. If you chuck all the bolts in a bucket together you will curse when you reassemble!
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well on one door = bag on inside tranz cover = bag, on dash = bag no two "Zones" have been mixed up. On window frame = bag. So far its just a bunch of 9mm bolts and a few 10 and 13mm I think ehehe. I always worry I guess its time to worry
You will have a lot of m6 and m8 bolts that are slightly different lengths, that's where the problem starts if you refit using the wrong one and end up needing an m8 bolt that is 5mm longer or shorter than you have got left 